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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have been over the illegal immigrant lie already you know. Do you just have zero memory, or do you enjoy having people prove you wrong repeatedly?

    Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org



    Yes, that is right, the bill specifically denies illegal aliens.
    And of course, to make sure those illegal aliens don't get free health care..... they took out the "E-Verify" clause... Just how gullible are you?

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Funding is still in the works, and is a real sticking point. So far no real proposal has gotten anywhere.
    No problem!!!! just borrow $2,000,000,000,000 from the Chinese.

    Oh wait.... they are divesting themselves of our dept as we speak.

    I got it!!!! Just print more money.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have been over the illegal immigrant lie already you know. Do you just have zero memory, or do you enjoy having people prove you wrong repeatedly?

    Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org



    Yes, that is right, the bill specifically denies illegal aliens.
    If they're not going to cover illegals, then why are illegals counted as a part of the 47 million uninsured persons in the country? I smell amnisty.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not following the question. Could you expand on it a bit?
    Obama claims that it is a "moral imperative" that we offer medical coverage to the 47 million uninsured in this country.

    Since that number includes anywhere from 10 - 20 million illegal immigrants,how does he plan on doing that without offering coverage to a very sizable portion of the uninsured, illegal immigrants?

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its all too obvious that the group of "usual suspects" has taken a page from their dear and beloved idol GWB: "If you tell lies enough times, perhaps there are some people out there guillable enough to believe you....so repeat repeat repeat".

    How you guys can continue to lie with a straight face when the facts are right before your eyes is truly amazing.
    It is the only way to justify being a conservative. Once I realized that, I abandoned that ideology. Amazing isn't it?
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Hmmmm, let's go directly to FactCheck.org and see what they have to say about President Obama and keeping your insurance.

    Obama said: "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don’t have to change plans, what I’m saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

    FactCheck:
    That’s true – the government won’t switch your plan for you under these bills.


    Keep Your Insurance? Not Everyone. | FactCheck.org
    Obama said "[n]obody is going to force you to leave your health care plan."

    FactCheck:
    That’s true enough. The legislation wouldn’t require anyone to switch health insurance – though, in most cases, plans would eventually have to meet minimum benefit standards. The bills don’t require anyone to join the federal plan.



    Keep Your Insurance? Not Everyone. | FactCheck.org
    Quote Originally Posted by FactCheck
    The House bill also has a provision that allows those who purchase their own insurance (those who don’t get insurance through an employer) to keep their plan as long as they’d like, as long as the insurance company keeps offering it.

    [...]

    It’s important to note that as things stand now, employers can and often do switch their employees’ coverage, or even drop it.

    Keep Your Insurance? Not Everyone. | FactCheck.org
    It seems as though President Obama is correct.

    If you're switched from your current coverage, it's your employer or present insurer that will do the switching, not this bill.



    Quote Originally Posted by apdst
    ...15 million are illegal aliens
    Quote Originally Posted by buck
    Since that number includes anywhere from 10 - 20 million illegal immigrants
    Got proof?
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Obama claims that it is a "moral imperative" that we offer medical coverage to the 47 million uninsured in this country.

    Since that number includes anywhere from 10 - 20 million illegal immigrants,how does he plan on doing that without offering coverage to a very sizable portion of the uninsured, illegal immigrants?
    Ok, I understand, and I do not know currently the answer. I will look into it in a bit.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    No problem!!!! just borrow $2,000,000,000,000 from the Chinese.

    Oh wait.... they are divesting themselves of our dept as we speak.

    I got it!!!! Just print more money.
    I hope they can print more doctors too!
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Got proof?
    Yes, I do.

    Do you have any proof that the 47 million uninsured don't actually count between 10 - 20 million illegal immingants?

    Or are you just being willfully obtuse?
    Last edited by buck; 08-20-09 at 07:57 PM.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yes, I do.

    Do you have any proof that the 47 million uninsured don't actually count between 10 - 20 million illegal immingants?

    Or are you just being willfully obtuse?
    Well then it would be nice if you posted it.

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