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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And while you're at it, Redress, you can point out where it says that it won't give free healthcare to 15 million illegals and detail how it's going to make health care costs go down, exactly.
    I'm more worried about medicare fraud like that has happened over the past several years.

    BIRMINGHAM, Ala.—- HealthSouth shareholder attorneys are asking a judge to place sanctions on Richard Scrushy for property being stripped from his Vestavia Hills and Lake Martin residences.

    In a motion filed Tuesday afternoon, lawyers claimed that “entire rooms had been stripped” from Scrushy’s Vestavia Hills mansion as of last Wednesday.

    They argue furniture, art, drapes and other furnishings had been removed along with antiques and silverware from both his Vestavia Hills home and his Lake Martin property.

    Shareholder attorneys are trying to seize Scrushy’s property to satisfy a $2.8 billion court judgment after a judge ruled in June that Scrushy directed HealthSouth’s massive accounting fraud scandal.

    HealthSouth shareholder attorneys: Scrushy mansion stripped bare | NBC13.com
    American citizens ripping off American citizens.
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You should read the question before you correct the answer.



    Nothing in what you quoted gives the government the power to decide when to stop care for the elderly. It gives the government the ability to decide what is covered and what is not. It's a rather unsubtle difference. Patients will still have the final say as to when to stop treatments, especially if they have living wills.
    So, in reality, you aren't able to take actual info from the bill, post it and tell us what it means?

    Just the same ole, "dat ain't what dat means", line of crap.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm more worried about medicare fraud like that has happened over the past several years.
    A government run health care system would be wide open to fraud.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And while you're at it, Redress, you can point out where it says that it won't give free healthcare to 15 million illegals and detail how it's going to make health care costs go down, exactly.
    We have been over the illegal immigrant lie already you know. Do you just have zero memory, or do you enjoy having people prove you wrong repeatedly?

    Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org

    .R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

    Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
    Yes, that is right, the bill specifically denies illegal aliens.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A government run health care system would be wide open to fraud.
    Health south was a private corp and I'm sure I can find more in the private insurance industry. And thank goodness we have a governmental system that brings these thieves to justice.
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm more worried about medicare fraud like that has happened over the past several years.



    American citizens ripping off American citizens.
    I would love to see more work done on finding and prosecuting any one who defrauds the government. I am very much a law and order type.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have been over the illegal immigrant lie already you know. Do you just have zero memory, or do you enjoy having people prove you wrong repeatedly?

    Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org



    Yes, that is right, the bill specifically denies illegal aliens.
    Again with the, "what isn't", line of bee-ess?
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Health south was a private corp and I'm sure I can find more in the private insurance industry. And thank goodness we have a governmental system that brings these thieves to justice.
    So, government beaurocrats are going to watch things closer than private industry employees? You're gonna have to work hard to sell me on that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Tell me where in the bill it details how there's going to be adequate funding AND doctors to suddenly deal with the waves of Obama's 40 million uninsured WITHOUT rationing the care given.
    Can you explain your way over this small bump for me. You know, just so I can put my mind at ease.
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Health overhaul myths taking root

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Can you explain your way over this small bump for me. You know, just so I can put my mind at ease.
    Funding is still in the works, and is a real sticking point. So far no real proposal has gotten anywhere.

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