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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Arguable.

    So you're in favor of Professors sleeping with their students, bosses sleeping with their subordinates, doctors sleeping with their patients, lawyers diddling their clients? You think these are all accusations that the various agencies and boards overseeing these various things should not look into when its accused of happening?
    Are they all adults? Are they breaking any laws or contracts they have agreed to? If not, no.

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Irony is your middle name; you attempt to derail just about every thread you enter with your vast right Wing conspiracies and hypocrisy.

    The only thing that surprises me here is that you didn't somehow link Bush to this affair.
    Now that's punny.

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its between the individual consenting adults
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are they all adults? Are they breaking any laws or contracts they have agreed to? If not, no.
    To each their own. Perhaps this is my experience as an instructor coming through more so than it should, but I see that as nothing more than an abuse of ones power and position as a superior to the person you're engaging in such acts with. I do know almost any instructorial type organizations tend to have rules against such, I believe the medical profession does as do lawyers I believe, and most corporations. Perhaps I am wrong to believe the President of the United States should be held to a higher standard of responsability in the power vested in them through their office and their power and sway over people than I would a manager of a retail chain or a karate instructor.

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are they all adults? Are they breaking any laws or contracts they have agreed to? If not, no.
    They are also offences bad enough to get you thrown out of your job, get your license to practice revoked, and get you disbarred.... any idea of why?

    Or are you as morally bankrupt as most libs.

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Redress is hardly someone I'd call morally bankrupt. One can believe that a position should not be held to certain moral standards but rather legal standards and still HAVE said moral standards. While I may not agree with Redress's take on this, if all he/she cares about is whether or not they broke the law then that's understandable and not necessarily morally bankrupted. That said, in that case, regardless of whether the investigation was just or not a law, a felony, was broken so I'd hope there was consistency there in redress's view on Clinton upon breaking a law.

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    To each their own. Perhaps this is my experience as an instructor coming through more so than it should, but I see that as nothing more than an abuse of ones power and position as a superior to the person you're engaging in such acts with. I do know almost any instructorial type organizations tend to have rules against such, I believe the medical profession does as do lawyers I believe, and most corporations. Perhaps I am wrong to believe the President of the United States should be held to a higher standard of responsability in the power vested in them through their office and their power and sway over people than I would a manager of a retail chain or a karate instructor.

    If there were any indication that it were anything other than consensual I think it would be a different story. But just because one person is in a higher position of authority than the other, there is no indication that there is anything improper about the relationship.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Redress is hardly someone I'd call morally bankrupt. One can believe that a position should not be held to certain moral standards but rather legal standards and still HAVE said moral standards. While I may not agree with Redress's take on this, if all he/she cares about is whether or not they broke the law then that's understandable and not necessarily morally bankrupted. That said, in that case, regardless of whether the investigation was just or not a law, a felony, was broken so I'd hope there was consistency there in redress's view on Clinton upon breaking a law.
    You'll notice I didn't call redress "moraly bankrupt".... you did notice that, right?

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    They are also offences bad enough to get you thrown out of your job, get your license to practice revoked, and get you disbarred.... any idea of why?

    Or are you as morally bankrupt as most libs.
    Wow...now its that Libs who are morally bankrupt? And all those Republican sex scandals were about what?
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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Agreed. Now should it have really come to that???

    Absolutely not.

    It was a partisan witch hunt from the beginning and a huge waste of taxpayer money.
    I think the whole mess got way out of hand, but the investigation started out on credible terrain--as I recall what got Ken Starr involved was the appearance that Slick Willie moved Ms Monica out of the White House to keep her at arm's length from Paula Jones, who was looking for witnesses for her sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton. Using his official capacity as President in that way to hinder a lawsuit against him would merit investigation as an abuse of power.

    Did it need to explode into an entire impeachment proceeding? No--but Slick Willie carries a large share of that responsibility as well, because he tried to stonewall Ken Starr about the whole mess.

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    Re: Ensign: I did nothing "legally" wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You'll notice I didn't call redress "moraly bankrupt".... you did notice that, right?
    That's right...you just questioned it. Big difference
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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