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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You think that they take that as some kind of concession? "Gee... we won every major battle!" Naw, I bet they would rather have not lost 58,000 people and won the war instead...
    Did I say they would take it as some kind of ****ing concession? No, I didn't.
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    The world's first cocaine bar | World news | The Guardian

    "Tonight we have two types of cocaine; normal for 100 Bolivianos a gram, and strong cocaine for 150 [Bolivianos] a gram." The waiter has just finished taking our drink order of two rum-and-Cokes here in La Paz, Bolivia, and as everybody in this bar knows, he is now offering the main course. The bottled water is on the house.
    Anyone who thinks a "War on Drugs" is winnable should read this article. Demand for drugs may be greatest in America, but it is a global demand. All of the very potent arguments against drug use fail in light of one compelling fact--drugs are desired.

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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The world's first cocaine bar | World news | The Guardian

    Anyone who thinks a "War on Drugs" is winnable should read this article. Demand for drugs may be greatest in America, but it is a global demand. All of the very potent arguments against drug use fail in light of one compelling fact--drugs are desired.
    I'm glad you read the Guardian, my paper of choice for 40yrs.

    Ps the web site has been iffy for the last week so your link may not work.

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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The world's first cocaine bar | World news | The Guardian

    Anyone who thinks a "War on Drugs" is winnable should read this article. Demand for drugs may be greatest in America, but it is a global demand. All of the very potent arguments against drug use fail in light of one compelling fact--drugs are desired.

    And the funny thing is, cocaine is illegal in Bolivia, too! You see how well that's working. But by all means let's keep the status quo.
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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    I'm glad you read the Guardian, my paper of choice for 40yrs.

    Ps the web site has been iffy for the last week so your link may not work.
    I don't hit every article on the site, but I browse the Guardian, the Independent, the Telegraph, and the Times at least every other day. It's helpful to have more than one perspective on things.

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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Legalizing alcohol put the Mafia out of business? Legalizing alcohol put an end the illegal liquir business? The answer is a resounding, no.
    Did it severely reduce the scope of a trade which is impossible to eliminate, and also result in a substantial decrease in gang related violence while making it less available to youth, and create what are now today multi billion dollar legitimate businesses that do not kill to further their business interests?

    The answer is a resounding yes.

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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Did it severely reduce the scope of a trade which is impossible to eliminate, and also result in a substantial decrease in gang related violence while making it less available to youth, and create what are now today multi billion dollar legitimate businesses that do not kill to further their business interests?

    The answer is a resounding yes.
    You left out the part where the businesses and the people buying the product all pay taxes.
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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    You left out the part where the businesses and the people buying the product all pay taxes.
    yeah I almost threw that in, but figured the sentence was already getting borderline run on as it were.

    I also left out that the businesses do not actively attempt to usurp or undermine police, military or governments as well (well through violence at least.. lobbyists could be construed to be doing just such a thing)
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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The world's first cocaine bar | World news | The Guardian

    Anyone who thinks a "War on Drugs" is winnable should read this article. Demand for drugs may be greatest in America, but it is a global demand. All of the very potent arguments against drug use fail in light of one compelling fact--drugs are desired.
    Is there any sane person who claims that it is "winnable"? A "war" on any crime is inherently not winnable.

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    Re: "It's a War": Mexico Under Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Is there any sane person who claims that it is "winnable"? A "war" on any crime is inherently not winnable.

    Then why wage war when it is nothing more than a waste of resources?? just because it is the status quo and we cannot fathom getting past a sense of overwhelming apathy when it comes to changing the status quo?

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