It's bad policy. After all, I can make gin and beer in my bathtub, too.
The netherlands is a poor example, because they've decriminalized possession and use, but haven't legalized production and sales. They left the black market in place.In some cases that true, but not all. Even the Netherlands is starting to tighten drug laws, because they're seeing the toll it's taking on the system.
Also, legalization would work better as part of a generally more libertarian approach to government... let people make their choices and then live with the consequences (or die with them)...don't subsidize taking care of them after they've ruined themselves with drug abuse. In other words, cut most or all the social programs that help enable people to lay around doing drugs instead of working (ie welfare), and stop curing them for "free" (at taxpayer expense) when they ruin their health with meth (socialized medicine).
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The Dutch have stated a shift in policy and they are making life harder on coffeeshop owners, but this is not because they are seeing the toll it is taking on their system, but rather as a result from pressures from the EU and the U.S. regarding their policy, and a more conservative government being in control.
Mushrooms have been outlawed in the Netherlands, so that's not entirely accurate.The netherlands is a poor example, because they've decriminalized possession and use, but haven't legalized production and sales. They left the black market in place.
Whether it's legal, or illegal but not enforced is irrelevant. It's becoming more and more obvious to the Dutch the open drug use isn't a good idea.
I don't see it as that. It is becoming more obvious to the Dutch that in order to be a player in the EU they have to make concessions and token gestures.Whether it's legal, or illegal but not enforced is irrelevant. It's becoming more and more obvious to the Dutch the open drug use isn't a good idea.
If it were not for the Single Convention it would be legalized.. international pressures have shaped their drug policy, although they bent towards leniency as far as they could under those pressures.
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Is there money to be made on things that are legal? Sure, so what? But this is really all about economics. About, again, the CONTROL of the Supply. Toyota makes a safer and better car than my neighbor Jim, who has illegal after market parts on his car drag machine in the garage with many missing safety features, and this not street legal. Toyota makes their cars better and sells them for less money too...
There are illegal rip-off products all over, but what impact do they make? Almost none... almost every person engages in legal buying and selling for almost all of their purchases.
What power would a Cartel have if they lost billions of dollars? Who would these guys employ as gaurds or chemists? All the best chemists would most likely work for a legit company where they would not have to worry about being killed or arrested.
Is pot going to be grown by some people around... sure. So what? It is still a fine or whatever, and there will still be some enforcement, as there is with boot-leggers, but is it even in the same ball park as a Cartel? Hell, is it even the same sport any longer?