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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The impact on the budget will certainly affect everyone, and depending on the final shape of the bill, the rest of it may as well.

    I agree that the dems will lose out among their party if they fail to pass anything, but if they pass a Dem-only bill that ends up being viewed as a failure, then they can't resort to "well it was bipartisan" like the Reps did with things like Patriot Act, etc.
    What happens if they pass legitimate healthcare reform without a single GOP vote and it actually succeeds?
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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

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    What happens if they pass legitimate healthcare reform without a single GOP vote and it actually succeeds?
    Then they will reap the rewards at the ballot box. That's how elections work.
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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The impact on the budget will certainly affect everyone, and depending on the final shape of the bill, the rest of it may as well.

    I agree that the dems will lose out among their party if they fail to pass anything, but if they pass a Dem-only bill that ends up being viewed as a failure, then they can't resort to "well it was bipartisan" like the Reps did with things like Patriot Act, etc.
    The thing is, as both Reagan and Bush proved, no one loses elections due to big deficits.

    The Republican Party has moved pretty far to the right and well outside of the mainstream of America. They are largely beholden to hard core activists in the base and conservative media. There is no chance of anything drawing bipartisan support with Republicans. The Limbaughs and Glen Becks out there just wont have it.

    Most Americans are pragmatic and moderate, there problem with Democrats right now is that they believe the Democrats are trying to do too much and spend too much instead of focusing on nothing but economic recovery. That does not mean that they are all of a sudden resurrecting that long gone Reagan Coalition again though. They are pissed off at the Democrats right now, but they hate Republicans.
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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What happens if they pass legitimate healthcare reform without a single GOP vote and it actually succeeds?
    Same thing as if pigs were to fly.

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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The thing is, as both Reagan and Bush proved, no one loses elections due to big deficits.
    Except that they've never been THAT big before.
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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Except that they've never been THAT big before.
    Except for during the Depression and its not like FDR had any trouble winning elections. People care about the economy, thats all they really care about.

    The economy will probably be slowly rebounding next year with unemployment still fairly high around election time so the Republicans will probably pick up 10 to 20 seats in the house. They are not going to be a majority party again though until they start allowing moderates back in the party again.
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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Yep,,, I agree. Let the Liberals stand up, and try to pass a Bill that steals from everyone,,, and 'Empowers" the Govt. to control your every move.

    What better way to expose the "Brain-Dead"? By all means, Vote.
    Your analysis of the proposed bill is brain dead.

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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    2010 will be about the economy and not much else, barring some major unforeseen event. Healthcare will not be a significant consideration I don't think.

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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Yep,,, I agree. Let the Liberals stand up, and try to pass a Bill that steals from everyone,,, and 'Empowers" the Govt. to control your every move.

    What better way to expose the "Brain-Dead"? By all means, Vote.
    Why would they do that? There is no such bill on the table to vote for.
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    Re: Analysis: Liberals tired of healthcare compromises [edited]

    It seems the Dems are starting to unite!

    House Dems Rally Behind Public Option In Weekly Caucus Gathering
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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