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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Yeah, but he's pretty honest for a politician.
    Huckabee IS quite honest for a politician, but he is the most dangerous kind of politician there is. I was leaning towards voting for him in the Republican primary, that is, until he made his statement that we should change the Constitution for Jesus. And, therein, lies the danger, which is a slippery slope towards the same kind of theocratic government that exists in Iran. Never forget that, in the Colonies, when governments were typically theocratic, we burned witches.
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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Well, he's correct of course. The Palestinians are unable to manage their own affairs without devolving into anarchy as it is.

    Add to that that they are as a whole determined to commit acts of mindless violence against their neighbors, and rational people will be forced to conclude that a viable state for them is less than impractical.

    One does not simply run up a flag over a rabble and announce that they are thereby transformed into a state.

    The Palestinians (a fairly contrived designation) are unlikely to have the cohesion to form so much as a territory for the foreseeable future.

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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Huckabee IS quite honest for a politician, but he is the most dangerous kind of politician there is. I was leaning towards voting for him in the Republican primary, that is, until he made his statement that we should change the Constitution for Jesus. And, therein, lies the danger, which is a slippery slope towards the same kind of theocratic government that exists in Iran. Never forget that, in the Colonies, when governments were typically theocratic, we burned witches.
    Cite for me please, one single, solitary example of anyone ever burnt for witchcraft in the American Colonies.

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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Huckabee IS quite honest for a politician, but he is the most dangerous kind of politician there is. I was leaning towards voting for him in the Republican primary, that is, until he made his statement that we should change the Constitution for Jesus. And, therein, lies the danger, which is a slippery slope towards the same kind of theocratic government that exists in Iran. Never forget that, in the Colonies, when governments were typically theocratic, we burned witches.
    Although we preferred hanging our witches, the point is valid. He also said when science contradicts the Bible, he chooses the Bible. No thanks.
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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Cite for me please, one single, solitary example of anyone ever burnt for witchcraft in the American Colonies.

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    I suppose hanging them was far better and really changes his point?
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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Although we preferred hanging our witches, the point is valid. He also said when science contradicts the Bible, he chooses the Bible. No thanks.
    I wouldn't be so hasty, since the application of "science" has allowed for genocide in modern times, but the Bible has not.

    Besides, one is a moral guide, the other an approach to understanding nature, that cannot in truth offer any moral guidance.
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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I wouldn't be so hasty, since the application of "science" has allowed for genocide in modern times, but the Bible has not.
    You are right. No one has ever died in the name of Jesus. My bad.

    I figure the good done via science far outweighs the bad, so I'm good with it.

    Besides, one is a moral guide, the other an approach to understanding nature, that cannot in truth offer any moral guidance.
    Not sure how this matters in relation to the thread.
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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I wouldn't be so hasty, since the application of "science" has allowed for genocide in modern times, but the Bible has not.

    Besides, one is a moral guide, the other an approach to understanding nature, that cannot in truth offer any moral guidance.
    1) You mean misapplication of science? Science doesn't call for genocide because genocide is evolutionarily flawed. If genocide were to take place, we would be less fit as a species.

    2) Isn't there genocide within the Old Testament?

    "When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations…then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them and show them no mercy.” ~Deuteronomy 7:1-2
    "…do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them…as the Lord your God has commanded you…” ~Deuteronomy 20:16

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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    You are right. No one has ever died in the name of Jesus. My bad.

    I figure the good done via science far outweighs the bad, so I'm good with it.



    Not sure how this matters in relation to the thread.
    Well, considering the prevalence of Christian charities and social initiatives though the years, a lot more people have lived because of or for Jesus. I suspect that you'll not wish to consider this in a favorable light.

    Science by the way can do no good. It is a method for gaining knowledge, no more no less. I suspect that you are thinking of technology, and some modern philosophies.

    As for your lack of certainty, you will have to seek relief for that as seems best to you.
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    Re: Huckabee Says 2 States in Holy Land "unrealistic."

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Cite for me please, one single, solitary example of anyone ever burnt for witchcraft in the American Colonies.

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    Actually, witch burning is a figure of speech. Most were hanged some were drowned, and a couple were crushed to death between large rocks. Only one was ever actually burned at the stake. My point is, all this was done under the same kind of theocratic government that Huckabee advocates.
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