Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.
obama was elected on the promise of healthcare reform, in part. and it's pretty funny that medicare (gov't program) recipients are worried about cuts........quite hypocritical.
Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:
These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.
The CBS article looks like a free plug for the ASA. According to the ASA supposedly 60,000 quit AARP. Now for an organization like ASA that was little known and has had problems for years recruiting I'd call this report goofy. Did the article mention that ASA is doing a deal where if you sign up you get a year free? This would explain some influx of members. What evidence do they have that members of AARP aren't renewing with AARP while also signing up with ASA. Again the article fails to cite where it got its numbers AARP does not say itself that they've lost that amount of members. Bad reporting.
Except that's not what the GOP is doing. SD is dead on the money that those who piss and moan about socialized medicine while using Medicare are giant flaming hypocrites. Furthermore, ever Republican in Congress who pisses about socialized medicine is a giant hypocrite. They got no problem using it themselves, but when others want it, the sky is falling. The level of honesty there is not measurable. The GOP is essentially playing class warfare here, pitting the young and relatively poor against the old.Yes Medicare is socialized, but it is not the same program being trotted through Congress right now, so let's concentrate on one program at a time.
How is this a discussion on me? I asked you HOW SD was wrong. Did you answer? Of course not. You're American. You NEVER back your statements up. Typical. And Medicare/Aid are broken on the finances and Social Security, which in premise is not a bad idea has allowed Americans to ignore their own savings.You had 40 years to debate Medicare, but you choose now to do so. Your point? Maybe you'd like to discuss Social Security now too, as a whole?
But the point still is, if you use socialized medicine, you are a hypocrite for arguing against it. Do you have a reply to that or are you going to weasel out of that subject which was the reason I posted.
And you don't actually reply to what you quoted nor ever back your statements up.
Again HOW is SD wrong?
Don't make me quote that again.Is he wrong? Or are you just going to make snide commentary as usual adding nothing to the discussion?
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I thought Medicare was waste, fraud and abuse. j/k
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