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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This is how party ID polls always work, because there's really no other way to do it. You're right that it's not ideal in terms of a static conclusion, but it is useful to look at trends.
    Possibly, but when the subject of study has x definitions where x is the number of polled, what use is that? There are self proclaimed "Conservatives" here who have supported notions that many liberals on this site find excessive leftist. Just because you call yourself whatever does not mean you actually hold those beliefs.

    What use is studying a subject that you cannot even uniformally define?
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The chart tracks extreme opinions, whether it be extreme approval or extreme disapproval. In some respects, this is a better method of evaluating public opinion, since those who only mildly approve possibly just say such because they don't have much of an opinion yet.
    Yes, but he used to to counter Lerxst's numbers. To counter them, he showed a chart of something different, and did not bother to provide a link so we could get the numbers that measure the same thing as Lerxst. When you look at those numbers, you discover that Rasmussen basically agrees with the numbers Lerxst provided. I don't have a problem with using just the "strongly" numbers, I just don't like the dishonesty Crunch showed.

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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yup. My 80-year-old grandmother wouldn't leave the Democratic party for anything. She worshiped Bill Clinton.

    Uh, she left the party. She hates Pelosi, and she can't believe her party has gone "haywire", as she puts it.
    My life long Democrat Mother has vowed to vote Republican now...She hates Obama and Pelosi.
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    So, what you're saying is that nothing has changed since the election.

    Then a strong fiscal conservative candidate ought to clean up in 2012.

    Wrong. The marriage of convenience to the religious right won't allow for that.

    I honestly hope that changes--time for a divorce.

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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Easy answer to that one. When Republicans abandon Conservatism, the people speak up at the ballot box (or by not voting at all), and Republicans then lose.
    I was almost one of those Conservatives that either stayed home or voted for someone else.McCain pissed me off too many times but in the end I voted for him as an anti Obama vote.
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Possibly, but when the subject of study has x definitions where x is the number of polled, what use is that? There are self proclaimed "Conservatives" here who have supported notions that many liberals on this site find excessive leftist. Just because you call yourself whatever does not mean you actually hold those beliefs.

    What use is studying a subject that you cannot even uniformally define?
    It's incredibly useful, as almost everything is subjective. Think about approval polls - whether the president is doing a "good job" is entirely subject to a person's definition of a good job. Nevertheless, approval ratings are very good proxies for support for a candidate.

    Furthermore, your point doesn't address the fact that even if the poll is useless alone, there's nothing to indicate that it's not useful in determining trends.
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    So, what you're saying is that nothing has changed since the election.

    Then a strong fiscal conservative candidate ought to clean up in 2012.

    Wrong. The marriage of convenience to the religious right won't allow for that.

    I honestly hope that changes--time for a divorce.
    I'm thinking the GOP needs to strike an even balance between the religious right and the moderate right.Dont kiss the religious rights ass so much and instead preach fiscal responsiblity and small government...And mean it.
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    40% of Americans consider themselves Conservative or Very Conservatives? That would still leave 60% of Americans to the left of conservatives and the very conservatives wouldn't it? I call myself a liberal but I wouldn't vote for Nancy Pelosi if I lived in their constituencies. Saying that Obama's policies are to blame for this is pretty silly. Moderates came out overwhelmingly for Obama. When 50% of Americans consider themselves Conservative then wake me up.
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Why donít people use polls from real polling companies?Ö here is one with a track record for accuracy.

    Ummmm....do you actually know what "Real Clear Politics" is? If I were you I would click the link. The secrets in the recipe...but I'll never tell.

    Real polling companies...
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    Re: Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    When 50% of Americans consider themselves Conservative then wake me up.
    No need for 50%,all the GOP needs is a good candidate.
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