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    President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

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    A man, who decided not to give his name, was walking around the pro-health care reform rally at 3rd and Washington streets, with a pistol on his hip, and an AR-15 (a semi-automatic assault rifle) on a strap over his shoulder.

    "Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."
    What the **** is a semi-automatic assault rifle?

    Last time I checked, an AR-15 fired a centerfire rifle cartridge and was semi-automatic... Therefore making it a semi-automatic rifle.


    ****ing gun grabbing ****s and their idiocy in pushing terms that don't apply. UGH.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    ****ing gun grabbing ****s and their idiocy in pushing terms that don't apply. UGH.
    I doubt that some local reporter is either trying to grab anyone's gun or pushing terms on anybody. He probably just doesn't know guns very well. Can't say I know much better myself.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    I doubt that some local reporter is either trying to grab anyone's gun or pushing terms on anybody. He probably just doesn't know guns very well. Can't say I know much better myself.
    It's much the media's fault that there is so much fodder of scary words surrounding firearms.


    Much like.. "assault weapons", "Gun violence", etc..etc.
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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix



    What the **** is a semi-automatic assault rifle?

    Last time I checked, an AR-15 fired a centerfire rifle cartridge and was semi-automatic... Therefore making it a semi-automatic rifle.


    ****ing gun grabbing ****s and their idiocy in pushing terms that don't apply. UGH.
    What is wrong with a semi-automatic rifle?
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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

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    What is wrong with a semi-automatic rifle?
    There is nothing wrong with calling an ar-15 a semi-automatic rifle.

    There is a big problem with calling it a semi-automatic assault rifle.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Just out of curiosity, why would that be wrong (I know very little about gun classification)?

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why would that be wrong (I know very little about gun classification)?


    Because classifying something as something else in the spirit of villifying an inanimate object is wrong?

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle]Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    This is the same media that have coined up the terms "assault pistol", and "gun violence"... whereas a pistol cannot be an assault weapon... and guns do not commit violence.. They're a tool used by a person to commit violence.
    Last edited by stevenb; 08-17-09 at 03:05 PM.
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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    So is the reason the reporter was inaccurate that the man's gun has no fully automatic mode?

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    So is the reason the reporter was inaccurate that the man's gun has no fully automatic mode?
    Yes, it's not "select fire". Therefore it is not an assault rifle.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    I doubt that some local reporter is either trying to grab anyone's gun or pushing terms on anybody. He probably just doesn't know guns very well. Can't say I know much better myself.
    Difference is, you arent charged with getting the facts right when reporting the news.

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