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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I train CQB carbine and pistol. I can say without a doubt, you are clueless as to what you are talking about.


    Just repeating what they told me repeatedly in basic, If you are shooting at something any distance away, after three or four rounds on full auto the recoil has pulled your aim high. They drilled the concept of the three round burst continuously .They also said that full auto is only good for making the enemy keep his head down. suppression fire. I guess the Army was just clueless.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How am I wrong?
    Becaus eyou arent using the correct definition?

    Assault rifle
    Definition
    ....
    -It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
    -It must be capable of selective fire;
    -It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
    -Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle]Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    But dont believe just wiki.. this is the same definion the US military uses.

    Is this an assault rifle?
    Yeah, it is.
    No. The M14 is NOT an assault rifle because it does not meet the defintion.

    What is the one major thing that all those assault rifles have in common?
    Aside from the fact you didnt present any...
    They meet the defintion.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 08-19-09 at 12:33 PM.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I gave you pics of milled out receivers. That's the source backing up the facts that I presented.
    You claimed that "Most civilian variants of the M-16 come with the reciever already milled out to accept an automatic sear".

    You havent provided substantiation for that claim.

    You have claimed that most you have seen are milled, and you rpovided pics of some that are, but neither substatiate the claim in question.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Assault rifle
    Definition
    ....
    -It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
    -It must be capable of selective fire;
    -It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
    -Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
    I hate to say this to a brother Connie, but that's the dumbest I've ever heard. Where'd you get that from?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You claimed that "Most civilian variants of the M-16 come with the reciever already milled out to accept an automatic sear".

    You havent provided substantiation for that claim.

    You have claimed that most you have seen are milled, and you rpovided pics of some that are, but neither substatiate the claim in question.
    You said NONE do. Care to back that up?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I hate to say this to a brother Connie, but that's the dumbest I've ever heard.
    However dumb you think it is, its the -actual- defintion of assault rifle.

    Where'd you get that from?
    I cited the source.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 08-19-09 at 02:25 PM.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You said NONE do. Care to back that up?
    On the contrary. I said:

    I have seen scores of these rifles, none of which have the machining you mention. I know none of mine have it, nor any of those of anyone I know.
    So, now, please back up your claim that "Most civilian variants of the M-16 come with the reciever already milled out to accept an automatic sear".

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    I have seen scores of these rifles, none of which have the machining you mention. I know none of mine have it, nor any of those of anyone I know.
    That makes me question how many you have actually seen. I've very few that aren't milled and none that are solid metal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That makes me question how many you have actually seen. I've very few that aren't milled and none that are solid metal.
    This does nothing to bolster your claim that "Most civilian variants of the M-16 come with the reciever already milled out to accept an automatic sear".

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    Re: President Obama takes the stage at VFW convention in Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This does nothing to bolster your claim that "Most civilian variants of the M-16 come with the reciever already milled out to accept an automatic sear".
    You've yet to bolster your claim that I'm wrong. I've shown you evidence that they do exist and excplained the difference between pre and post ban lowers and provided docs to support that explanation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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