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Chicago City Govt Closed Monday

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1. Expect a lot more of this nationwide

2. It's been going on for months here in CA at the state, city and county levels

3. Many public service workers in CA have had to take pay reductions, therefore, on the order of 15%

4. Obama is a PRODUCT of the Windy City Machine, no?

Chicago City Government Closed For Business Monday, Due To Budget Constraints - cbs2chicago.com

The City of Chicago will basically be closed for business on Aug. 17, a reduced-service day in which most city employees are off without pay, according to a release from the Office of Budget and Management. City Hall, public libraries, health clinics and most city offices will be closed.

Emergency service providers including police, firefighters and paramedics will be working at full strength, but most services not directly related to public safety, including street sweeping, will not be provided, the release said.

That also includes garbage pickup. Residents who receive regular collection on Mondays should expect trash to be picked up the following day, the release said. Some other customers may experience a one-day delay as collectors catch up.

As part of the 2009 budget, three reduced-service days were planned for 2009, days which are unpaid for all affected employees -- the Friday after Thanksgiving; Christmas Eve; and New Year's Eve. The City Council recently approved moving the reduced-service day planned for New Year's Eve to Monday.

The 2009 budget anticipates saving $8.3 million due to the reduced-service days.

In addition to reduced service days, all non-union employees were asked to take a series of furlough days and unpaid holidays, and most non-sworn union employees agreed to similar unpaid time off.


The Prof
 
1. Expect a lot more of this nationwide

2. It's been going on for months here in CA at the state, city and county levels

3. Many public service workers in CA have had to take pay reductions, therefore, on the order of 15%

4. Obama is a PRODUCT of the Windy City Machine, no?

Chicago City Government Closed For Business Monday, Due To Budget Constraints - cbs2chicago.com




The Prof

What does President Obama have to do it at all? This is drastic solution to a serious problem and it is worthy of discussion but not in the terms of partisan blame assignment.
 
chicago is the most corrupt city in america, obama is a creation of the machine there, nothing more

did you see, for instance, that one of obama's first moves as president was to promote the supt of chicago's public schools to Ed Secty?

this was totally bizarre, as windy city's schools, in addition to abysmally embarrassing test scores, have been plagued by a wave of violence, very worrisome, the last several years

google---chicago schools wave of violence, you'll get hundreds of hits

Chicago battles rise in student deaths - USATODAY.com

Chicago Crime Wave Claims Youth - ABC News

i was first clued in by a cnn special about a year ago

about a hundred youths have been killed by other kids in the last few years

more than double that have been wounded

very sad

but an extremely odd choice for Secty of Ed, in my opinion

rahm emanuel---chicago personified---is not doing real well, either

is he?
 
1. Expect a lot more of this nationwide

2. It's been going on for months here in CA at the state, city and county levels

3. Many public service workers in CA have had to take pay reductions, therefore, on the order of 15%

Sounds like they're trying to solve their budget crisis in Chicago. This may or may not be the best way to do it, but why do you so casually dismiss the idea?

The Prof said:
4. Obama is a PRODUCT of the Windy City Machine, no?

You're right. Obama personally caused this budget crisis by taking federal money away from Chicago to give it to Kenya. :lol:
 
who's dismissing, who's casual?

chicago city govt, the machine, has flatly failed, clearly
 
Prof just gets pissy when he doesn't get to have his regular session with his doctor. Calm down pal, Doctor will be back to work on Tuesday, you'll see him then. The nurses and orderlies will be there all day if you need anything.

(You change their routine one iota and some of them just lose it.)
 
who's dismissing, who's casual?

chicago city govt, the machine, has flatly failed, clearly

If you want to talk about how this is all Obama's fault instead of the actual headline, I think the Partisan Bickering forum might be a better place than Breaking News. ;)
 
who's dismissing, who's casual?

chicago city govt, the machine, has flatly failed, clearly

By the same note I guess any city having budget troubles right now should mark any politician from that state as a corrupt failure? That would be all of them.

Enough of this partisan crap. You could have posted a story telling of the budget woes in nearly every city and state and have an intelligent discussion on how best to scale back services to cover the shortfall. Instead you took a story about the city where your hated president came from and attempted to use it as an example of why you think he is unworthy. You don't care about the problem at all, you are just looking for more ammo to use against the president no matter how far fetched and tenuous.
 
By the same note I guess any city having budget troubles right now should mark any politician from that state as a corrupt failure? That would be all of them.

Enough of this partisan crap. You could have posted a story telling of the budget woes in nearly every city and state and have an intelligent discussion on how best to scale back services to cover the shortfall. Instead you took a story about the city where your hated president came from and attempted to use it as an example of why you think he is unworthy. You don't care about the problem at all, you are just looking for more ammo to use against the president no matter how far fetched and tenuous.

no, i couldn't have posted about another city

cuz there weren't any breaking in the msm

chicago broke

chicago is obama's home

that's all

the chicago machine is famously and profoundly corrupt

obama is its creature

draw your own conclusions

he's not reponsible for their budget woes

he might be symptomatic, however

i don't hate obama, i feel sorry for him

he's way over his head

his chicago methods play so poorly nationally

just look at the results

blaming everyone else, attacking people, going strong arm

telling folks who disagree with him to shut up, asking neighbors to rat each other out

rahm the ram sending threatening letters to the governor of arizona

stuff like that

appointing the blood spattered supt of schools to his cabinet

obama is NOT responsible for chicago's budget problems

he was just a kid at the time
 
no, i couldn't have posted about another city

cuz there weren't any breaking in the msm

chicago broke

chicago is obama's home

that's all

the chicago machine is famously and profoundly corrupt

obama is its creature

draw your own conclusions

he's not reponsible for their budget woes

he might be symptomatic, however

i don't hate obama, i feel sorry for him

he's way over his head

his chicago methods play so poorly nationally

just look at the results

blaming everyone else, attacking people, going strong arm

telling folks who disagree with him to shut up, asking neighbors to rat each other out

rahm the ram sending threatening letters to the governor of arizona

stuff like that

appointing the blood spattered supt of schools to his cabinet

obama is NOT responsible for chicago's budget problems

he was just a kid at the time

ZOMG. Learn how to write a complete sentence and paragraph if you expect anyone to read any of that.
 
What does President Obama have to do it at all? This is drastic solution to a serious problem and it is worthy of discussion but not in the terms of partisan blame assignment.

He's the president and he's going to get blamed for everything.

Ya'll better hope the next three hurricane seasons are very, very quiet.
 
man plunges 30 feet after falling thru rusted nyc sidewalk grate

Man Falls Through Rusted Sidewalk Plate

also obama's fault

just kidding

but he is gonna catch hell from one angle or another no matter what he does

part of the job

he shouldn't have run if he couldn't take it

thus, he shouldn't have run

cuz he can't take it

he's always whining and blaming others

here's just some of the folks he's called out---doctors, insurance co's, cable tv, town hall attendees, george w what's-his-name, rush the harmless fuzzball, the rich, the cambridge cops, the gop, his own congress...

excuse maker in chief, epitome of cheap politician

opposite of leader

therefore, he shrinks daily

oh well
 
He's the president and he's going to get blamed for everything.

Ya'll better hope the next three hurricane seasons are very, very quiet.

Yeah... Um...who was it again that took us out of the Kyoto Treaty?

And which Dick was it who negotiated a backwards energy policy in secret meetings with the oil companies?
 
Yeah... Um...who was it again that took us out of the Kyoto Treaty?

And which Dick was it who negotiated a backwards energy policy in secret meetings with the oil companies?

I'm proud that we're not a part of the Kyoto Treaty. Kyoto is the Japanese word for, "joke". Did you know that?

How would you say our current energy policy is going?

Yer boy had a secret meeting with big pharma last week on health care reform. Whatcha think about that? At least Bush's energy policy put folks to work, instead of putting them in the unemployment line.
 
I'm proud that we're not a part of the Kyoto Treaty. Kyoto is the Japanese word for, "joke". Did you know that?

Don't know if that was a poorly executed joke, but Kyoto means "Capital City" in Japanese.
 
Don't know if that was a poorly executed joke, but Kyoto means "Capital City" in Japanese.

It was sarcasm to the max. I didn't know what it meant, nor did I care.
 
It was sarcasm to the max. I didn't know what it meant, nor did I care.

Yeah, sarcasm translates poorly over the internet.

Also, Prof, you speak as if Chicago was the only influence in Obama's life, as if he didn't exist before Chicago. He in fact was not born out of the depths of Hell. He happened to have many influences before Chicago, be it his Mother, his grandparents, his teachers, etc. Saying that because Obama spent some time in the Windy City that he himself must be corrupt is stretching it.
 
yes, obama held a secret meeting (july 7) with reps from PhRMA which accomplished quite a lot

1. he lied about it, tried to deny the meeting took place

2. he outraged congress which sees his going over their heads in the dark and committing them to outrageous agreements as approaching dictatorial

3. he promised PhRMA that he would oppose congressional efforts to reduce drug costs

4. he would oppose importation of meds from Canada

5. he'd halt rebates in Medicare Plan D which would cost the pharmaceuticals billions in reimbursements

6. he agreed to "non intereference," in other words, he agreed to the "status quo," pledging the govt not to press phrma to negotiatate downward drug prices

7. he was promised in return up to but not more than 80 bil in price discounts to the public for pills over the next 10 years

8. he also blatantly broke several basic campaign vows---his promise to drive down drug prices, for one

9. also, his commitment to conduct negotiations in the open

10. he's also looking forward to a $150 million dollar ad campaign (more than mccain spent in all 08) by phrma pushing obamacare

11. congress is in revolt over this, led by pelosi, waxman, sharrod brown and senator byron dorgan

Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma

12. robert reich, clinton's labor secty, wrote a scathing op ed bewailing the "threat to our democracy" implied by such presidential behavior

How the White House’s Deal With Big Pharma Undermines Democracy

absolutely filthy
 
I'm proud that we're not a part of the Kyoto Treaty. Kyoto is the Japanese word for, "joke". Did you know that?

How would you say our current energy policy is going?

Yer boy had a secret meeting with big pharma last week on health care reform. Whatcha think about that? At least Bush's energy policy put folks to work, instead of putting them in the unemployment line.

How is it secret if you know about it?

Bush's energy policy? You mean invade Iraq--how'd that work out for us?
 
chicago is the most corrupt city in america, obama is a creation of the machine there, nothing more

did you see, for instance, that one of obama's first moves as president was to promote the supt of chicago's public schools to Ed Secty?

this was totally bizarre, as windy city's schools, in addition to abysmally embarrassing test scores, have been plagued by a wave of violence, very worrisome, the last several years

google---chicago schools wave of violence, you'll get hundreds of hits

Chicago battles rise in student deaths - USATODAY.com

Chicago Crime Wave Claims Youth - ABC News

i was first clued in by a cnn special about a year ago

about a hundred youths have been killed by other kids in the last few years

more than double that have been wounded

very sad

but an extremely odd choice for Secty of Ed, in my opinion

rahm emanuel---chicago personified---is not doing real well, either

is he?

Chicago is not the most corrupt city in the USA. If it was, it would look like New Orleans more and not an Alpha city of the WORLD.
And another thing, you wouldn't want for a city like Chicago to be broke, if it was then all you republican states would be living in a sewer filth because the money Chicagoans and area residents give to the federal government would stop.
 
1. Expect a lot more of this nationwide

2. It's been going on for months here in CA at the state, city and county levels

3. Many public service workers in CA have had to take pay reductions, therefore, on the order of 15%

4. Obama is a PRODUCT of the Windy City Machine, no?

Chicago City Government Closed For Business Monday, Due To Budget Constraints - cbs2chicago.com
The Prof

Wow!! I never thought that blind partisanship would cause someone to actually post something so far out. President Obama is from Chicago so why not blame him for the great Chicago fire instead of Mrs. O'Leary's cow. Wasn't Al Cpone from Chicago! Maybe you can claim that POTUS palled around with Al.

The original post may have satisfied the letter of the rules for a BN post but it sure as $!&&$^& does not satisfy the spirit of posting a BN.
 
Why would anyone want to sign that piece of trash?

Because they're a tree huggin' Libbos looking to make some money off the Global Warming business.
 
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