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    White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    WASHINGTON – Apparently ready to abandon the idea, President Barack Obama's health secretary said Sunday a government alternative to private health insurance is "not the essential element" of the administration's health care overhaul.
    The White House indicated it could jettison the contentious public option and settle on insurance cooperatives as an acceptable alternative, a move embraced by some Republicans lawmakers who have strongly opposed the administration's approach so far.
    Officials from both political parties reached across the aisle in an effort to find compromises on proposals they left behind when they returned to their districts for an August recess. Obama has been pressing for the government to run a health insurance organization to help cover the nation's almost 50 million uninsured.
    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said the White House would be open to co-ops instead of a government-run public option, a sign Democrats want a compromise so they can declare a victory on the must-win showdown.
    "I think there will be a competitor to private insurers," she said. "That's really the essential part, is you don't turn over the whole new marketplace to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing. We need some choices, we need some competition."
    Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said co-ops might be a politically acceptable alternative as "a step away from the government takeover of the health care system" that the GOP has assailed.
    White House appears ready to drop 'public option' - Yahoo! News


    If these healthcare terrorist attacking town halls are nothing more then fringe insurance lobbyist that mean nothing, why are Obama and the Dems backing down?
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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    This is ridiculous.

    If they go ahead with this, they are ignoring people and acting like they can do what they wish.
    If Dems then revise their options in the face of a public backlash or dissatisfaction with what is being offered and seek to find a common ground. The Republicans and protestors were right. This move should be welcomed by those who opposed him previously.

    In my view, this makes Obama even more likeable if he is willing to back down and change his stance. That is a quality found very rarely amongst politicans.


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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This is ridiculous.

    If they go ahead with this, they are ignoring people and acting like they can do what they wish.
    If Dems then revise their options in the face of a public backlash or dissatisfaction with what is being offered and seek to find a common ground. The Republicans and protestors were right. This move should be welcomed by those who opposed him previously.

    In my view, this makes Obama even more likeable if he is willing to back down and change his stance. That is a quality found very rarely amongst politicans.
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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    1. Wow, Sebelius has been the president's point girl on the topic

    2. She and Specter got ripped to pieces by a hyped up pack in Philly 2 weeks ago

    3. How do you spell S-U-R-R-E-N-D-E-R?

    4. That's an awfully white flag they're waving, no?

    5. CENTERPIECE of Obamite ambition, the PUBLIC OPTION

    6. Bye bye, moment of silence

    7. That's long enough

    8. Palin kicked his bony butt on "death panels"

    9. Took her about a week

    10. She did it on FACEBOOK

    11. LOL!

    12. Public option he killed all by his incompetent self

    13. Obamacare STILL faces HUGE problems

    14. And its Salesman in Chief is woefully weakened

    15. Obamacare still FINES individuals, still CUTS MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, still covers ILLEGALS, still changes public funding of ABORTION, still bends the COST CURVE the wrong way, still taxes BENEFITS (the McCain plan), still looks to END OF LIFE COSTS for scary savings...

    16. All the above has been plainly predictable to the prescient, what's coming next is frankly foreseeable, as well

    17. Conrad is key contributor on Baucus' GATEWAY Cmte, Senate Finance, one of the Ubiquitous Six, the senator who on July 16 got CBO/Elmendorf to testify to the steepening trajectory of the COST CURVE, which arithmetic kicked out the prop underscoring Obama's most basic premises concerning the issue

    18. Liberal groups associated with DNC Chair Howard Dean have targeted Conrad and other centrists with ATTACK ADS

    19. The LEFT is gonna go ballistic, they've really been STRUNG ALONG

    20. And a lot of CENTRISTS have really stretched out their necks for this White House, which now pulls back ITS head

    21. Most INEPT pol at the national level America has ever seen

    My Way News - Sebelius: Public insurance option not essential

    WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama's health secretary is suggesting the White House is ready to accept nonprofit insurance cooperatives instead of a government-run public option in a health overhaul plan.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says Obama still believes there should be choice and competition" in the health insurance market - but that a public option is "not the essential element."

    Obama has been pressing for the government to run a health insurance organization to help cover the nation's nearly 50 million uninsured. But he had not seen a not-for-profit co-op as sufficient to offer consumers choice and competition that would bring down the costs of private insurance.

    Sebelius spoke on CNN's "State of the Union."

    Democratic Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota has been pushing the co-op system as an alternative to a government-run public option to help cover the nation's nearly 50 million uninsured. Conrad says it's an idea that has worked well in other business models.
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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This is ridiculous.

    If they go ahead with this, they are ignoring people and acting like they can do what they wish.
    If Dems then revise their options in the face of a public backlash or dissatisfaction with what is being offered and seek to find a common ground. The Republicans and protestors were right. This move should be welcomed by those who opposed him previously.

    In my view, this makes Obama even more likeable if he is willing to back down and change his stance. That is a quality found very rarely amongst politicans.
    That's fine and I don't disagree with you except that...

    Obama Uses Op-Ed to Criticize Health Insurance Industry - Political News - FOXNews.com

    President Obama took aim at the health insurance industry Sunday, using an op-ed to accuse the insurance companies of discriminating against millions and rally support for a comprehensive reform package to hold them "accountable."

    The op-ed in The New York Times escalated an approach the White House and congressional Democrats have taken in recent weeks, in which they've focused more on Americans who have insurance, rather than the staggering number of uninsured. In doing so, health care reform proponents have cited a litany of examples of how Americans’ health insurance plans are falling short.

    Though health care reform critics have flooded town halls over the past month, Obama wrote in his column that media have focused too much on the "loudest voices" -- he suggested that those with inadequate insurance policies are clamoring for reform.

    "What we haven't heard are the voices of the millions upon millions of Americans who quietly struggle every day with a system that often works better for the health-insurance companies than it does for them," Obama wrote.

    The president cited a "2007 national survey" which he said showed insurance companies "discriminated" against more than 12 million Americans over three years because of pre-existing conditions.

    "Almost everyone knows that we must start holding insurance companies accountable and give Americans a greater sense of stability and security when it comes to their health care," he wrote.

    Obama wrote that he's confident health care reform will pass.
    He wrote an Op-Ed TODAY saying the protesters basically were a minority of the opinion and really shouldn't.. well count.

    So your assessment would have merit if he and the dems hadn't been spending so much time saying the protesters were of no real matter.
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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    This is good news. This doesn't mean we put our guard down, though. They may still try and stick something in the final bill under the radar.

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    absolutely correct

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This is ridiculous.

    If they go ahead with this, they are ignoring people and acting like they can do what they wish.
    If Dems then revise their options in the face of a public backlash or dissatisfaction with what is being offered and seek to find a common ground. The Republicans and protestors were right. This move should be welcomed by those who opposed him previously.

    In my view, this makes Obama even more likeable if he is willing to back down and change his stance. That is a quality found very rarely amongst politicans.
    actually this means Obama lacks the courage of his convictions and has FAILED with his first major overhaul/transformation of the American landscape.

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    actually this means Obama lacks the courage of his convictions and has FAILED with his first major overhaul/transformation of the American landscape.
    This is when the hyper partisan people come crawling from under the rock.

    It seems they care more about political point scoring than what is good for the country.
    A president who can compromise and admit when he is wrong is better than one who doggedly sticks to his view and doesn't give others a look in.


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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This is when the hyper partisan people come crawling from under the rock.

    It seems they care more about political point scoring than what is good for the country.
    A president who can compromise and admit when he is wrong is better than one who doggedly sticks to his view and doesn't give others a look in.

    That's fine and dandy, and no one is arguing that, however, he spent a lot of effort trying to marginalize the protesters as being wrong, yet here he is backing away from what he wanted.

    Which means...

    What? What do you say about a President that did faked townhalls stacked with supporters and loaded questions, that spent a lot of political capital trying to claim that those against the reform are wrong... who suddenly is ready to take a major provision (and one that was at the heart of the protest against his reform) off the table?

    You can claim that we're just being hyper partisans, and that's fine, I wouldn't expect otherwise, but in your heart you know that means the President was wrong in saying that the protesters were a fringe group, that the protests were just paid agitators of the insurance cabal, that his agenda has been defeated.

    THAT is good for the country.
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