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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    You would think "highly" educated Liberals would do some investigation before they made absurd claims.
    educated liberal? Does that exist?

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Every single one of those countries has been able to defend itself except for Japan. In Japan's case, they aren't legally allowed to have a real army, so not really unreasonable. In case you haven't noticed, Canada has no nearby enemies and Britain has a powerful military and nuclear weapons.



    LMAO. The Chinese are going to attack Europe? The Soviets had to intention of attacking Europe, and even if they did our nuclear program was the only thing that mattered to them.
    Before you laugh your ass off too much, click this link then come back and we can talk about the US subsidizing other countries defense/health care.

    Link: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures]List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Before you laugh your ass off too much, click this link then come back and we can talk about the US subsidizing other countries defense/health care.
    So what? Canada doesn't have any enemies. They could have no army at all at it wouldn't matter. You can't invade Britain because they have nukes and a navy. The U.S. military is expensive because we deploy it all over the world in offensive actions. Just defending a small countries borders doesn't cost much at all.

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You can't invade Britain because they have nukes and a navy.
    Sorry,but both are so small that they would'nt matter.

    The U.S. military is expensive because we deploy it all over the world in offensive actions. Just defending a small countries borders doesn't cost much at all.
    Not only for Offensive actions,but also defensive positions in areas that no longer need our defence.
    "The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without."

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Sorry,but both are so small that they would'nt matter.
    The only country with a blue water navy stronger than Britain is the U.S. And if you think 201 nuclear weapons wouldn't matter, you really have a lot to learn in this world.

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The only country with a blue water navy stronger than Britain is the U.S.
    The Royal Navy isnt large enough to last more than 5 minutes against the US Navy


    And if you think 201 nuclear weapons wouldn't matter, you really have a lot to learn in this world.
    201 warheads and at least half of them could be shot down.The prospect of any of them being used is extremely small.
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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    So, you believe the 'safety nets' we have in this country for families with low incomes and the indigent population should be done away with?
    Should people be forced to provide goods/services for free? No.
    Should people be forced to pay for goods/services they did not receive? No.
    Based on that, the answer to your question is yes.

    I'm really trying to understand where you're coming from.
    It should be pretty clear.

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Ooooh, some lefties don't like this, not one bit at all.

    Michael Brenner: The Health Care Reform Debacle: Obama's Coming-Out

    Particularly apt:

    It is Barack Obama who is to blame for this. For months, he stayed aloof from the out-of-control Congressional maneuvering based on a strange belief in some kind of bipartisan collective will emerging by osmosis. He never leaned the weight of his person and his office to elements of reform that has been touting as candidate and then President. He deceived the country by pursuing secret talks with the very lobbies who are the heart of disgraceful national health care situation. He entered into deals that were weighted heavily in their selfish interest rather than the national interest. In short, we have gotten from him the antithesis of what we were promised and expected -- in the substance and process of policy both. We have instead a conventionally minded politician overly respectful of the status quo and deferential to those who control and profit from it, A man with no apparent fixed convictions.
    Ya think?
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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ooooh, some lefties don't like this, not one bit at all.

    Particularly apt:

    Ya think?
    This, friends, is the "change" you voted for.
    Hope you enjoyed the kool-aid.

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    Re: White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

    President Obama is a pragmatist. The public option was always just that.

    I'd like to see the public option at least be preventive services in public health--restored to say--how it was in the late seventies.

    If we had prevention services, it would help. How about tax incentives or educational benefits for weight loss, quitting smoking, overcoming an addiction?

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