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    Re: UK imposes Turks and Caicos rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    And what exactly is wrong with colonialism again? It seems like all of the places where law and order have gone to Hell in a handbasket in the last century or so have been former colonies... and the misery and destruction have only started upon the withdrawal of the former colonial power.

    Perhaps if they had remained colonies, under the rule of the people who conquered them, there would still be order and some small measure of prosperity there.
    Or perhaps if they were never colonies in the first place, they would have remained consistently prosperous?

    You forget that a lot of formal imperial powers torched or divided their territories upon exit, causing domestic strife. They seeded them with problems to prevent them from coming after them for revenge.

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    Re: UK imposes Turks and Caicos rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Or perhaps if they were never colonies in the first place, they would have remained consistently prosperous?

    You forget that a lot of formal imperial powers torched or divided their territories upon exit, causing domestic strife. They seeded them with problems to prevent them from coming after them for revenge.
    Pointless to go back in history and say what should have never been done, easy when we have hindsight.
    We cannot change what Europeans and many other nations did. Empires were a 'must' for any major power
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    Re: UK imposes Turks and Caicos rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What is done is done. Pointless to go back in history and say what should have never been done, easy when we have hindsight.
    We cannot change what Europeans and many other nations did. Empires were a 'must' for any major power
    Yes I know... I'm just saying, it's easy to look at post-colonial nations and criticize their chaos as nothing more than a byproduct of lacking colonial institution... but it's important to look at how they were before the imperialists even arrived in order to paint the full picture. Chaos and corruption wasn't necessarily in the foundation of all these nations before empires swept them up.

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    Re: UK imposes Turks and Caicos rule

    The TCI have had their own government since 1976, and have been largely independent of Britain since the 1960s, making Westminster's decision to assert power over the islands all the more controversial.

    The island's premier, Galmo Williams, said his country was "being invaded and re-colonised by the United Kingdom". He accused the Foreign Office of "dismantling a duly elected government and legislature and replacing it with a one-man dictatorship".

    But many outside the political elite have rejoiced at the news, saying the move was long overdue. They claim corruption had created a climate of fear in which people were scared to speak out for fear of being targeted.

    Writing in the TCI Journal, a website that has been critical of the islands' politicians, Shaun Malcolm, a long-time civic leader, declared his country's "long nightmare" had ended. Malcolm said: "As is being said often in the US by some civic participants, 'Never let a crisis go to waste'. My hope is that the Turks and Caicos will emerge now from this period of repression as a stronger society, and that we as a people will use this opportunity to rebuild our institutions wisely."

    Another resident declared on the website that a "new dawn breaks in the history of the Turks and Caicos Islands... after six years of dictatorial rule, founded on ignorance and arrogance".

    The comments followed a decision last week by a Foreign Office minister, Chris Bryant, to instruct the governor of the Turks & Caicos, Gordon Wetherell, to bring into force an order suspending the islands' government and its House of Assembly for up to two years.

    The suspension went ahead after a legal challenge by former premier Michael Misick failed. It was recommended by Sir Robin Auld, a former British judge, whose commission of inquiry looked into allegations of corruption by elected members of the islands' legislature.

    The inquiry raised questions about the nature of the relationship between the islands' politicians, including Misick, and several foreign property developers. Misick and his deputy, Floyd Hall, have denied impropriety.

    Wetherell denied the decision to suspend the islands' parliament amounted to a "British takeover" and said "most people in the Turks and Caicos will join with me in welcoming these changes".

    "Public services will continue to be run by people of the Turks and Caicos Islands," Wetherell said. "But I hope we can now begin to run them better. Our goal is to make a clean break from the mistakes of the past by establishing a durable path towards good governance, sound financial management and sustainable development."
    Islanders split as Whitehall takes over Turks and Caicos | Politics | The Observer

    Imagine that ... the corrupt political elite call it colonialism but as long as we have the support of the people. Good for UK
    This is a constitutional monarchy working how it was designed to work .... stepping in to defend the people from an incompetent and highly corrupt and tyranical government. Well done Her Majesty and the Governor.
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    Re: UK imposes Turks and Caicos rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Chaos and corruption wasn't necessarily in the foundation of all these nations before empires swept them up.
    But it is now after the powers gave them independence.
    Some countries just cannot rule themselves without falling to corruption, look at Africa.

    And perhaps colonials establishing control again may lead to some form of peace they will never have under their own.


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