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    Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

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    WASHINGTON – Key senators are excluding a provision on end-of-life care from health overhaul legislation after language in a House bill caused a furor.
    Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, said in a statement Thursday that the provision had been dropped from consideration because it could be misinterpreted or implemented incorrectly.
    A health care bill passed by three House committees allows Medicare to reimburse doctors for voluntary counseling sessions about end-of-life decisions. But critics have claimed the provision could lead to death panels and euthanasia for seniors.
    The Senate Finance Committee is still working to complete a bill.
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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

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    So all us rightwingers were full of ****? We didn't understand the truth?
    No you didn't. The end-of-life provision in the bill was created by Johnny Issakson, a Georgia Republican Senator. And no, it would not have euthanized the elderly.
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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    When my 103 year old Grandmother passed away in her own home with all her grandchildren around it was nice to to have compassionate caring professionals around.

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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No you didn't. The end-of-life provision in the bill was created by Johnny Issakson, a Georgia Republican Senator. And no, it would not have euthanized the elderly.
    No one ever said that anyone getting euthanized. That's an invented statement that has been added to the comments from the Liberal side of the argument.
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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    When my 103 year old Grandmother passed away in her own home with all her grandchildren around it was nice to to have compassionate caring professionals around.
    My grandmother is 94 and she's ready to go. She's said she's ready. That's a decision for her to make, not the government. She has caring professionals to help her, too. Obviously, there's no need for this provision, as these services are already available.
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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No one ever said that anyone getting euthanized. That's an invented statement that has been added to the comments from the Liberal side of the argument.
    So the Republican Senator from Georgia, Johnny Issakson, is now a Liberal?
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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So Republican Senator Johnny Issakson is now a Liberal?
    Isaakson said that Section 1233 supported euthanizing elderly Americans?
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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My grandmother is 94 and she's ready to go. She's said she's ready. That's a decision for her to make, not the government. She has caring professionals to help her, too. Obviously, there's no need for this provision, as these services are already available.
    When to die is not a choice.

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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No one ever said that anyone getting euthanized. That's an invented statement that has been added to the comments from the Liberal side of the argument.
    False.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chain email
    On Page 425 of Obama’s health care bill, the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes…They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by former Republican lieutenant governor of New York Betsy McCaughey
    the Congress would make it mandatory … that every five years, people in Medicare have a required counseling session that will tell them how to end their life sooner, how to decline nutrition, how to decline being hydrated, how to go into hospice care … all to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut your life short.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boehner/McCotter statement, July 23
    Section 1233 of the House-drafted legislation encourages health care providers to provide their Medicare patients with counseling on “the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration” and other end of life treatments, and may place seniors in situations where they feel pressured to sign end of life directives they would not otherwise sign. This provision may start us down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if enacted into law.
    I got those from just one article: False Euthanasia Claims | FactCheck.org. There are more. What is hilarious is that the entire objections to this bill come from lies propagated about it.

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    Re: Senators exclude end-of-life provision from bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My grandmother is 94 and she's ready to go. She's said she's ready. That's a decision for her to make, not the government. She has caring professionals to help her, too. Obviously, there's no need for this provision, as these services are already available.
    And offering to pay for the counseling to set her desires on paper so they can be respected is wrong how?

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