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    Re: Gates: 'A few years' of combat in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post
    As a matter of fact, because we jumped into the middle of a civil war and got sidetracked by attempting to win the hearts and minds of Muslims, which is absolutely impossible to do in any event, OBL and AQ were able to escape, meanwhile we needlessly created an enemy we didnít have before and have been bogged down in a quagmire like the Soviets were for the past 8 years pursuing a silly fantasy based mission.
    What are some examples of activities the US engaged in to "win the hearts and minds of Muslims" and how did they contribute to bin Laden's escape?

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    Re: Gates: 'A few years' of combat in Afghanistan

    In Afghanistan for a few more years? With what money??


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    Re: Gates: 'A few years' of combat in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    In Afghanistan for a few more years? With what money??
    China's money, of course

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    Re: Gates: 'A few years' of combat in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by creation View Post
    Because winning hearts and minds is proven to work and scorched earth tactics followed by withdrawal are proven not to work.
    Altruistic nation building missions in Muslim countries and winning the hearts and minds of Muslims has not only never worked but it is in fact about as counterproductive as it gets. Not to mention that winning the hearts and minds of Muslims is absolutely impossible in any event because Muslims are under strict obligation to hate all non-Muslim kafirs no matter what we do for them.

    In addition, putting the lives of our troops at risk for the good of others instead of for the defense and protection of Americans is about as immoral as it gets!

    Finally, if we consistently use overwhelming brute force to obliterate leaders who make the mistake of crossing us and then go home and let our actions speak for themselves, whoever takes that leaders place will think twice before he emulates his predecessor and suffers his same fate. Yes deterrence works!
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    Re: Gates: 'A few years' of combat in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    What are some examples of activities the US engaged in to "win the hearts and minds of Muslims" and how did they contribute to bin Laden's escape?
    Isnít it obviousÖI mean instead of focusing ONLY on eradicating OBL and AQ in retribution for 9/11 and also to send a loud and clear message to all other would be OBLs in the world, we got sidetracked by jumping into the middle of a civil war we had no business jumping into on the side of the Northern Alliance that were just as hardcore Muslims as the Taliban.

    Thus, while we were preoccupied flying in supplies in preparation to occupy a Muslim country in order to win hearts and minds and while we were also dropping care packages from the sky to attempt to win the hearts and minds of Muslims, which is absolutely impossible in any event, OBL and AQ were busy escaping.

    Meanwhile, instead of following OBL and AQ inside of Pakistan to eliminate them, we instead chose to occupy an Islamic country to pursue a silly fantasy based nation building mission and to pretend that if we lift Muslims out of poverty, despair, and hopelessness by establishing democracy, that it will somehow miraculously eliminate Islamic terrorism, when the fact of the matter is Islamic terrorism has nothing whatsoever to do with poverty, despair, and hopelessness but everything to do with Islam and jihad.

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    Re: Gates: 'A few years' of combat in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    In Afghanistan for a few more years? With what money??
    Your money!

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