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    French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    French officials have banned a Muslim woman from swimming in a public pool while wearing a swimsuit that covers her entire body.
    The woman had swum in July in the pool in Emerainville, east of Paris, in the "burkini" - a loose-fitting garment resembling a wetsuit with a hood.
    But staff stopped her from swimming in August, citing hygiene concerns.
    It comes as the government examines ways to limit burka use after the president said they reduced dignity.
    France is home to Western Europe's largest population of Muslims, with about 5 million living there.
    At the pool, staff "reminded [the woman] of the rules that apply in all (public) swimming pools which forbid swimming while clothed," pool management official Daniel Guillaume was quoted by AFP as saying.
    The woman was a French convert to Islam, and had bought the swimsuit in Dubai so that she would not have to uncover herself to go swimming.
    "Quite simply, this is segregation," she said, according to Le Parisien newspaper, which identified her only as Carole.
    "I will fight to try to change things. And if I see that the battle is lost, I cannot rule out leaving France."
    Emerainville Mayor Alain Kelyor said "all this has nothing to do with Islam", adding that the swimsuit was "not an Islamic swimsuit" and that "that type of suit does not exist in the Koran".

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    I admire the French on this one. I hope they push this all the way.
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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I admire the French on this one. I hope they push this all the way.
    I think it's really dumb. What's the point other than to discriminate against Muslims? If a swimsuit is designed as a one piece with a hood, why should that be banned? It's not like they're wearing cloths in there, it's a designed swimsuit. Who the **** cares? Why the **** is it anyone's business? Jesus, people need to start learning to mind their own damned business.
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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    First the burka then .... ??


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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    First the burka then .... ??
    The Burkini. Its the same thing, why not?
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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think it's really dumb. What's the point other than to discriminate against Muslims? If a swimsuit is designed as a one piece with a hood, why should that be banned? It's not like they're wearing cloths in there, it's a designed swimsuit. Who the **** cares? Why the **** is it anyone's business? Jesus, people need to start learning to mind their own damned business.
    Actually its not part of being Muslim. It has nothing to do with Islam, its just a public sign of oppression that they must cover up there bodies because there family wants such things. Im glad the French are banning it.
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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    I supported the ban on head and face coverings, but this is just pushing things too far. (Yes, I know the swimsuit included a head covering.) People should be able to swim in a public pool without displaying their entire body for the world to see.

    What's next, banning one piece?

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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I supported the ban on head and face coverings, but this is just pushing things too far. (Yes, I know the swimsuit included a head covering.) People should be able to swim in a public pool without displaying their entire body for the world to see.

    What's next, banning one piece?
    Good point. I think the banning of the Burka, however, was totally justified.
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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Good point. I think the banning of the Burka, however, was totally justified.
    Certainly. But this does not serve nearly the same benefit.

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    Re: French pool bans 'burkini' swim

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Actually its not part of being Muslim. It has nothing to do with Islam, its just a public sign of oppression that they must cover up there bodies because there family wants such things. Im glad the French are banning it.
    What if she just wanted to wear it? It's not oppression then. Maybe someone wants to. I mean ****, we give tickets out for people who run around outside naked in public. Is that oppression? I think at some point it's ok to demand cloths. And if someone wants to wear more than the minimum required, then so be it. It's stupid to make these laws, and these laws are nothing more than xenophobic attacks against a specific group that some folk in France (not the most accepting of folk) don't like.
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    I really don't see what the problem is.
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