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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No bolder than anyone else. Are you the, "boldness", judge of the forum? Or is this just more harrassment?
    How is it harassment to expect people to have proof to back up their claims? It's not like you said "I think that Jefferson would feel the same way." You said that he would. That is an absolute statement. You can't go around making such statements and expect people not to ask you to back them up.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    How is it harassment to expect people to have proof to back up their claims? It's not like you said "I think that Jefferson would feel the same way." You said that he would. That is an absolute statement. You can't go around making such statements and expect people not to ask you to back them up.
    Because it's all you do. You demand proof, when you never provide any, along with a few insults for good measure. All you do is roam around the forum damanding people back up their comments. I've yet to see you support anything you've ever said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because it's all you do. You demand proof, when you never provide any, along with a few insults for good measure. All you do is roam around the forum damanding people back up their comments. I've yet to see you support anything you've ever said.
    I don't make assertions like the one you did without proof prepared just in case someone asks me to back it up. It's kind of common sense. Here again you are making claims about me now that you most likely can't back up. By the way, which insults are you referring to? Nowhere in my replies to your posts did I insult you.
    Last edited by Dr_Patrick; 08-14-09 at 11:55 AM.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    That's what usually happens. Obviously, you need to arrest someone holding a sign like that to determine is there is or was an actual threat to the President or the dude is just a harmless nut ball. Most of the time it turns out to be harmless nut ball.
    Not being a lawyer, I admit that my following thinking is simply based on the federal conspiracy laws that I'm more familiar with than Presidential threat laws.

    Under federal law, to be guilty of the crime of conspiracy, you must plan an illegal act with at least one other person & then must commit at least one Overt Act in furtherance of that conspiracy.

    Example:
    Me & a buddy discus robbing the local bank at dinner one night.
    (this discussion itself is not a criminal act)
    If either one of us then drive by the bank to check out security, we have then committed the overt act that then makes our activity a criminal conspiracy. (any lawyers out there who care to jump in here are welcome)


    My point is that I would simpoly guess that this nut was let go because no overt act was committed. The Secret Service is on a hair trigger footing right now, & rightly so. I would guess thast they would prosecute ANYONE that they could reasonably expect to convict, regardless of his/her real threat potential.

    Just a hunch on my part.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Both people are idiots who don't respect our country. Lock them both up IMO. You can not threaten the President. Call him socialist. Paint a hitler mustache or devil horns on him -- but once you directly threaten or advocate violence towards the democratically elected leader of our country, you're not one of us anymore. Buh-bye, asshole.

    That being said -- the way some people try to deflect or derail a discussion by digging up something the other extreme once did -- pretty lame Harshaw. Pretty lame.

    Partisan hack douchebaggery of the highest order.

    Deal with the issue in OP or don't post.


    How did I not "deal with it"?

    First, I said he was a nutball who needed to be arrested. Do you disagree?

    Then, I dealt with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Yep, they sure are a real class act. I imagine the (R)epugnants will squirm out of this.
    Which implies that the aforesaid nutball represents Republicans. I further countered with an illustration of how stupid that implication is. Me, I wouldn't think it would take a whole lot to follow that, but I clearly overestimated the ability to do so on the part of, say, YOU.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I don't make assertions like the one you did without proof prepared just in case someone asks me to back it up. It's kind of common sense. Here again you are making claims about me now that you most likely can't back up. By the way, which insults are you referring to? Nowhere in my replies to your posts did I insult you.
    You never make assertions, period. You harrass other members.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You never make assertions, period. You harrass other members.
    Once again, making claims that you can't back up. Expecting you to have proof to back up your claims isn't harassment. You are just lashing out because you have nothing to back them up with.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Once again, making claims that you can't back up. Expecting you to have proof to back up your claims isn't harassment. You are just lashing out because you have nothing to back them up with.
    I'll say this, again, I was expressing an opinion, just like everyone else that remarked about Jefferson. Is there some rule that says that a poster has to provide info to support his/her opinion? I think we all know the answer to that, just like you knew I was expressing an opinion and you just like to start ****.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'll say this, again, I was expressing an opinion, just like everyone else that remarked about Jefferson. Is there some rule that says that a poster has to provide info to support his/her opinion? I think we all know the answer to that, just like you knew I was expressing an opinion and you just like to start ****.
    There was no indication from your post that it was just an opinion. If there had been I wouldn't have even commented. You made an absolute comment like you know for a fact that he felt that way.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    There was no indication from your post that it was just an opinion. If there had been I wouldn't have even commented. You made an absolute comment like you know for a fact that he felt that way.
    Althought I didn't expressly admit that I was posting my opinion, at some point common sense must prevail for one to figure it out on his own. If you believe my opinion is wrong, you're more than welcome to post information proving so, but, we know that'll never happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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