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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Team b.? come now, you are not even in the same league as the Good Reverend! I am pro obviously, while you may be "A" team in the beer league, its hardly a cause to attack my greatness.
    Nice attempt at humor if you don't know what Team B is don't comment on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What you are doing is an appeal to authority, and while doing that, you have not established even, your credentials.... Such fail..... such fail.
    Ahh so once again can't attack the position and instead try to attack character. This is getting old fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    The fact that the cold war ended after he left office, would be akin to say that bush policies had no effect on Obama's economy, and as a partisan who claims to be centerist, I'd pay the board a 5 spot to see you admit this...
    Right because the recession started in December 2007 before Obama took office and had been going for about a year we started feeling the effects around September. Again reality fails to support your contentions. Your original statement was that he ended the cold war. This is demonstrably false.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Check and mate.
    I agree you refuse to debate anyone instead you launch character attacks then get upset when people do it to you. Attack the position not the poster

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    lame.... You were humoring me, now this is just lame... up your game pogue.
    Naw you've shown thus far you can't understand simple concepts and instead of having a scholarly debate you attack a person and not their position. I agree this is getting lame you're an adult please start acting like it.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Nice attempt at humor if you don't know what Team B is don't comment on it


    Ahh so once again can't attack the position and instead try to attack character. This is getting old fast.

    How old is it? badabump......




    I was using updated references....


    It's Time to Bench "Team B"





    Right because the recession started in December 2007 before Obama took office and had been going for about a year we started feeling the effects around September. Again reality fails to support your contentions. Your original statement was that he ended the cold war. This is demonstrably false.

    oooh such a centrist.... I bet you think Clintons economy was more than a tech bubble and housing bubble too?




    I agree you refuse to debate anyone instead you launch character attacks then get upset when people do it to you. Attack the position not the poster

    This is a lie. I asked you for quotes and links., you failed.





    Naw you've shown thus far you can't understand simple concepts and instead of having a scholarly debate you attack a person and not their position. I agree this is getting lame you're an adult please start acting like it.


    this was an example of Irony, no?


    When did I insult you? you on the other hand are insulting me.... I don't care, I find it humorous thus far.....
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I can see your point, but it is all speculation, we have to look at the other "communist" nations and thier fate.

    China, while more capitalist now, is still in existance. Cuba? N. Korea? It seems that everything else is speculation other than Reagan outspent the USSSR in a monopoly game.
    Those are four different stories. Cuba and North Korea are both flaky shells of what they were while the Soviets Union was around and even North Korea is debatable because of how little we know about them. China though is interesting because their expansion has come at the high price of millions of dead people, violations of human rights and what is now complete lunacy in their insane mixture of a capitalist/socialist society. If you go to China today you'll be hard pressed to find a society that one would described as 'socialist' or 'communist' in nature. The poor are poor and the rich are rich and there is no real support net of any kind for anybody.

    The Chinese didn't really stretch themselves by providing resources for some countries at a reduced market price. They unlike the Soviets weren't feeding a room full of U.N. communists for years. The Chinese had to deal with their own people going hungry. This gives it a different perspective and made it in some ways easier to deal with. It is only now, decades after the Tianamen Square massacre that China has surfaced as a candidate for World Power.

    After years of not only agricultural reform but capitalist expansion, the Chinese are only communist on paper and you'd be hard pressed to disagree if you went there.

    You go to Cuba today you'll see things like the CUC(Cuban Convertible Dollar). It's a way for a failed government to deal with a retardedly weak currency like the Cuban peso.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I never called you a basket case.

    In my opinion you are not a centrist.
    Ahh I'm sorry it must have been your evil twin posting under your screen name:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058200159

    Yeah you did call me a basket case. So would that make you the liar?

    Finally progress in your opinion as opposed to unequivocally saying it before. Again you have yet to prove your case.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Those are four different stories. Cuba and North Korea are both flaky shells of what they were while the Soviets Union was around and even North Korea is debatable because of how little we know about them. China though is interesting because their expansion has come at the high price of millions of dead people, violations of human rights and what is now complete lunacy in their insane mixture of a capitalist/socialist society. If you go to China today you'll be hard pressed to find a society that one would described as 'socialist' or 'communist' in nature. The poor are poor and the rich are rich and there is no real support net of any kind for anybody.

    The Chinese didn't really stretch themselves by providing resources for some countries at a reduced market price. They unlike the Soviets weren't feeding a room full of U.N. communists for years. The Chinese had to deal with their own people going hungry. This gives it a different perspective and made it in some ways easier to deal with. It is only now, decades after the Tianamen Square massacre that China has surfaced as a candidate for World Power.

    After years of not only agricultural reform but capitalist expansion, the Chinese are only communist on paper and you'd be hard pressed to disagree if you went there.

    You go to Cuba today you'll see things like the CUC(Cuban Convertible Dollar). It's a way for a failed government to deal with a retardedly weak currency like the Cuban peso.

    Geopolitics are fun. Complicated but so much fun.



    I apprecieate you opinion. Let me ask you, DId reagan push along the end of the cold war in any way or not?

    As a self described liberal I'd understand if you think "no" however, I got to say, I think he really had a strong hand in hastening the demise of th USSR....
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Unfortunately the article you present bears no reading further when they state: "If Yuri Andropov's kidneys hadn't given out...".
    Well, then, perhaps you SHOULD have read beyond that point and seen what he had to say about it.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Ahh I'm sorry it must have been your evil twin posting under your screen name:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058200159

    Yeah you did call me a basket case. So would that make you the liar?

    Finally progress in your opinion as opposed to unequivocally saying it before. Again you have yet to prove your case.



    Oh my bad, so sorry, I was being actually tongue in cheek, I have referenced you as a respectable debator and tried to engage you intellectually. you just want to fight....



    I am so sorry, I was wrong. I misread you. Lets continue and I will view you as a joe1991, devil505, crunch, aquapub and a formerroadie type poster from now on.....


    I suggest we both tone it down from here on out, as I will not treat you as someone who can handle adult debating and will respond accordingly from now on to any and all personal attacks....


    Again, I apologize for misreading you.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How old is it? badabump......




    I was using updated references....


    It's Time to Bench "Team B"
    Make some sense here. Team B was apart of the posturing during the cold war making people believe the soviets had stuff they didn't that they were stronger than they were in contradiction to the CIA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    oooh such a centrist.... I bet you think Clintons economy was more than a tech bubble and housing bubble too?
    The concensus amongst economists is that it started in december of 2007 a full year and a month before Obama took office. So yeah an economy already in recession does have an effect on the current economy. This shouldn't be a hard concept for you to understand. Everything goes in cycles so say the republicans. Now you're talking about another subject we were talking about how one thing rolls into the other. I've seen republicans try to claim Reagan was responsible for Clinton's economy so it seems anytime a democrat does something good its a republicans fault everytime something bad happens its a democrats fault. No win scenarios. Downplay everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is a lie. I asked you for quotes and links., you failed.
    I already have shown you in the last post where you called me a basket case. So yeah you'd be the liar.





    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    this was an example of Irony, no?


    When did I insult you? you on the other hand are insulting me.... I don't care, I find it humorous thus far.....
    Really where am I insulting you? I'm saying you can act better than this

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I apprecieate you opinion. Let me ask you, DId reagan push along the end of the cold war in any way or not?

    As a self described liberal I'd understand if you think "no" however, I got to say, I think he really had a strong hand in hastening the demise of th USSR....
    Depends on what you mean. I think Reagan was essential in bringing the Soviet closer to what was going to be their inevitable move towards some sort of democracy. I don't think he played a role in their economic downfall. If the Soviet Union hadn't stretched itself the way it did we'd still have the CIA and the KGB looking at each other. An overstretched model of communism and a totalitarian government filled with a culture of military cronyism was the real downfall of the Soviet Union.

    They were the very definition of spending money you don't have. Except they didn't see until they were 30 years, and 40 mouths to feed deep in debt. Their money never really existed.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Oh my bad, so sorry, I was being actually tongue in cheek, I have referenced you as a respectable debator and tried to engage you intellectually. you just want to fight....



    I am so sorry, I was wrong. I misread you. Lets continue and I will view you as a joe1991, devil505, crunch, aquapub and a formerroadie type poster from now on.....


    I suggest we both tone it down from here on out, as I will not treat you as someone who can handle adult debating and will respond accordingly from now on to any and all personal attacks....


    Again, I apologize for misreading you.
    Again jokingly calling me a basket case is still a personal attack. Where have I called you any names during this whole exchange? When you actually engage in an intellectual debate please let me know. Thus far you haven't. I've seen the same ole thing from you. Also when you want to act like an adult please let me know. Thus far you have been found wanting.

    If you were intellectually debating instead of playing jeopardy you'd actually refute positions.
    Last edited by PogueMoran; 08-18-09 at 06:07 PM.

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