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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He's actually partially correct. Our own people acknowledge that the Soviet Union crumbled under the weight of a government that was over stretched, dealing with dozens of cultural ethnicities and providing for tens of satellites across the world. The only people who still believe that Reagan played any serious role in the downfall of the Soviets are Americans. If anything Reagan was more like the dog barking at what was the inevitable fall of a giant who was trying to do too much at the same time. I think you should read this paper. It's by a former Russian politician who works for the AEI now.

    http://www.aei.org/issue/25991




    I can see your point, but it is all speculation, we have to look at the other "communist" nations and thier fate.

    China, while more capitalist now, is still in existance. Cuba? N. Korea? It seems that everything else is speculation other than Reagan outspent the USSSR in a monopoly game.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Ok mr. revisionist... Reagan had nothing to do with ending the cold war. and sorry I got the wrong jeopardy guy, I get off my couch every now and then.... lol:
    I thought you were stuck in the basement? Nothing revisionist about it. Everything I stated actually did happen. Look up team B. I've read enough about the cold war even a Reagan favorable perspective by Richard Pipes, who was on Team B. Reagan had nothing to do with ending the cold war it ended after he left office and ended in spite of him. All this revisionism happened during the late clinton years trying to improve Reagan's image after the Iran-Contra mess. We knew they were going to collapse back during the ford years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    hmm, or, just or, you suxors at teh humorz..... Just sayin... This is twice now.
    Sorry its not Half Hour news hour show kind of humor but its satire none the less. Strawmen arguments are completely different. I'd have to dig through your posts to find some. Maybe next time I'll put some emoticons after my posts so you'll know.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    The answer Alex is the good Reverend is poorly educated, and easily manipulated by propaganda. Should the good Reverend have actually been educated in a proper institution, received at least a Masters or PhD on this very subject, they would know this instantly.


    That's right, "Alex", I'll remember that next time.


    However, your insults and personal attacks are unnessecary.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I can see your point, but it is all speculation, we have to look at the other "communist" nations and thier fate.

    China, while more capitalist now, is still in existance. Cuba? N. Korea? It seems that everything else is speculation other than Reagan outspent the USSSR in a monopoly game.
    So you're saying Reagan increased the size of the government and that's what did the reds in.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And for a differing view . . .

    How Reagan won the Cold War. - By Fred Kaplan - Slate Magazine

    (Just matching opinion with opinion here.)
    Unfortunately the article you present bears no reading further when they state: "If Yuri Andropov's kidneys hadn't given out...". The significance of this is that the writer is absolutely clueless as to why Yuri Andropov was selected, and what the significance of his selection entailed. As I said, Andropov was the former Director of the KGB, he alone knew the true conditions in the system. Most Politburo members, and almost all party members, were forbidden to see the actual economic data that the KGB collected. While most understood and recognized there were serious issues, none understood the why or how much. By selecting Andropov it was beleived that he alone would be able to address the serious issues of a worsening and weakening state. This is an issue that had gone on for years, but under Brezhnev nobody was able to address it. Since most in the party were ignorant to the specific situation and problems they were unable to effectively work on anything. By selecting Andropov it was believed that he alone would know where the problems where, and how to address them. This is 1982. Do you understand now the significant nature of an Andropov selection? The Soviet Union was by 1980 already a dying state, actions taken were reactionary to the conditions within the state, regardless of the U.S.

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    However, your insults and personal attacks are unnessecary.
    Pot say hello to mr kettle kettle meet Mr pot

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    I thought you were stuck in the basement? Nothing revisionist about it. Everything I stated actually did happen. Look up team B. I've read enough about the cold war even a Reagan favorable perspective by Richard Pipes, who was on Team B. Reagan had nothing to do with ending the cold war it ended after he left office and ended in spite of him. All this revisionism happened during the late clinton years trying to improve Reagan's image after the Iran-Contra mess. We knew they were going to collapse back during the ford years.

    Team b.? come now, you are not even in the same league as the Good Reverend! I am pro obviously, while you may be "A" team in the beer league, its hardly a cause to attack my greatness.


    What you are doing is an appeal to authority, and while doing that, you have not established even, your credentials.... Such fail..... such fail.

    The fact that the cold war ended after he left office, would be akin to say that bush policies had no effect on Obama's economy, and as a partisan who claims to be centerist, I'd pay the board a 5 spot to see you admit this...


    Check and mate.





    Sorry its not Half Hour news hour show kind of humor but its satire none the less. Strawmen arguments are completely different. I'd have to dig through your posts to find some. Maybe next time I'll put some emoticons after my posts so you'll know.

    lame.... You were humoring me, now this is just lame... up your game pogue.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Pot say hello to mr kettle kettle meet Mr pot



    Quote and link. OR stop lying.
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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Quote and link. OR stop lying.
    Lets see calling me a basket case, claiming im not a centrist and attacking me on that. Yeah that qualifies

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    Re: 'Death to Obama' sign holder in Md. detained

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Lets see calling me a basket case, claiming im not a centrist and attacking me on that. Yeah that qualifies



    I never called you a basket case.

    In my opinion you are not a centrist.
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