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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Yes, and why did all these Dems (who were wrong) say this? Can you answer me that?

    Could it be that they were told of fake yellowcake purchase that was instigated by a known Italian fraudster? Could it be they were not told the truth, what actual scientists had to say about aluminum tubes? Could it be they were not told the truth about Curveball's allegations?
    No!!!! GOPer's are Jesus loving, truth telling, good ol' boys! No, wait, they aren't any of those, so you have a point!

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    What was it for then? It seems lying to the FBI, and what, four other criminal charges?
    Your having to ask me a question that you already know the answer too seems rather desperate don't you think?

    Libby's prosecution for lying under oath had NOTHING to do with the case. What is profound here is spending $40 million in an investigation for a perceived crime where the culprit, Armitrage, was already known to be the source for the story.

    Now what level of mental degradation does it take to NOT ask why we even had an investigation and then prosecute the person who was NOT the source for lying under oath?

    Again, in my logical opinion, this is more evidence of the Alice-in-Wonderland mentality the world is heading where wrong is right, right is wrong, up is down and down is up.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Yes, and why did all these Dems (who were wrong) say this? Can you answer me that?

    Could it be that they were told of fake yellowcake purchase that was instigated by a known Italian fraudster? Could it be they were not told the truth, what actual scientists had to say about aluminum tubes? Could it be they were not told the truth about Curveball's allegations?
    Good lord Sam, your spinning is making me dizzy here.

    I asked you to look at the dates; the one's attributed to the previous President and Secretary of Defense was before Bush was even a candidate.

    Denial is strong in this Liberal.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Then why is Scooter Libby still serving a sentence of supervised release for two years and paying a $250,000 fine? If he is innocent and it was Armitage, Libby should be off the hook, right?
    He was convicted of perjury, because he made contradictory statements to investigators. Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald made it clear, that he was not guilty of outing a covert CIA agent.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    It sure as hell had NOTHING to do with the outting of Plame; unless of course you desperately want to spin this some more?
    Truth Detector -- the most ironic user name ever.

    Libby resigned all three government positions immediately after he was indicted on federal charges of obstruction and perjury resulting from the grand jury investigation into the leak of the covert identity of Central Intelligence Agency officer Valerie Plame. In his trial for his role in the Plame affair, United States v. Libby, the jury convicted Libby on four of the five counts in the indictment: one count of obstruction of justice; two counts of perjury; and one count of making false statements to federal investigators.
    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Libby"]LINK[/ame].

    TD: Did you really not know this or were you just bull****ting for the hell of it?

    The facts be stubborn things, my unintentionally humorous friend.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Truth Detector -- the most ironic user name ever.

    LINK.

    TD: Did you really not know this or were you just bull****ting for the hell of it?

    The facts be stubborn things, my unintentionally humorous friend.
    You're kidding me right? What part of the charges brought against Libby has to do with this case? I will wait for the FACTS from you to suggest that anything I have stated is untrue.

    Have you been drinking, or are you just THAT incoherent when it comes to reading comprehension?

    FACT: This was an investigation of the "outing" of a CIA agent where the source of the presumed “outing”, Armitage, was known before the investigation even began.

    FACT: No crime of "outing" a CIA agent was ever discovered in this case and NO prosecutions for that crime were brought forth.

    You were desperately attempting to suggest otherwise? Read Grim's response; at least he is coherent and comprehends what it is he is talking about, something that cannot be said for your ramblings.
    Last edited by Truth Detector; 08-13-09 at 06:31 PM.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    He was convicted of perjury, because he made contradictory statements to investigators. Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald made it clear, that he was not guilty of outing a covert CIA agent.

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    Sometimes even the OBVIOUS is too much for some to grasp or comprehend.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Richard Armitage made an innocent off hand remark to Novak that at the time he thought nothing off, same for Novak. Since you are so knowledgeable, I guess you simply forget the ethics that journalists are suppose to always find a second source?
    Sorry, the last thing the Left is allowed to question is anyone's ethics.

    That rule will change when they demonstrate possession of any.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    he was convicted by a DC jury of testifying falsely in an investigation that turned out to be over nothing

    certainly not the first time

    why have plame/wilson/vanity fair/armitage/libby/novak/yellowcake/etc been totally written OUT of history?

    the entire scandal completely scotched?

    decisively dropped?

    because the white house never did, never tried, never intended to out an agent who wasn't even an agent in the first place

    the white house tried to set straight exactly who this bigmouth op ed writer wilson was

    cheney had NEVER HEARD OF HIM

    and wilson's claiming in his puffed up op ed they're closer PALS than obama and wm ayers

    wilson said the WHITE HOUSE SENT HIM

    he came back and mumbled varying versions of his "findings" to agents

    his wife is the one who got him the job

    that's how her name got brought up

    either way, mom and pop america couldn't give a darn

    they care greatly, however, about all this health care business

    perhaps you've seen it on tv

    mom and dad have been showing up in record numbers---in the middle of the SUMMER, yet---at town halls, expressing their umbrage

    no way ms mccaskill or mr harkin or mr ross or mr specter or literally 100 others...

    no way they're gonna cross mom

    health care is DEAD

    everyone in america is scared of mom

    MOM DETERMINES

    and she has DECIDED---she wants her HIP

    pedro and paloma, bless their corazones pequenos, are just gonna have to get by somehow

    did you hear what GRASSLEY said yesterday?

    mr grassley is probably the MOST IMPORTANT person in america right now

    because when dick durbin on sunday signaled that the white house was "open" to "cutting" the "public option," it essentially handed off the football (for the first time) to the REPUBLICANS in the SENATE

    when durbin did what he did, he rendered all the doings in pelosi's place DECEASED

    it's up to the SENATE, now

    maybe you've heard about GATEKEEPER baucus' UBIQUITOUS SIX

    the 3 repubs and the 3 dems who've been tearing their hair trying to cobble a compromise to save the suffering sick man, obamacare

    well, GRASSLEY is the red LEADER of the TRIO

    and---did you HEAR what he SAID yesterday

    LOLOLOL!

    he doesn't want the plug pulled on gramma, either

    DEAD---health care

    even the CO OP, now

    apparently, all signs indicate

    moment of silence?

    so sorry

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Richard Armitage made an innocent off hand remark to Novak that at the time he thought nothing off, same for Novak. Since you are so knowledgeable, I guess you simply forget the ethics that journalists are suppose to always find a second source?[/I].
    If my memory serves me, Novak mentioned that Wilson's wife over at the CIA recommended Wilson for the Niger mission to Karl Rove, to which Rove replied (paraphrasing) "oh, you heard that too". Novak then proceeded to look up her name in "Who's who" magazine.

    Of course, this has nothing to do with anything. I made my comments because a liberal falsely claimed that Cheney orchestrated the leak of Valerie Plame.

    Wrong again. Funny you should use the word clueless, as I suspect you have read no accounting as to how intelligence was gathered prior to the war. Not every credible intelligence agency had this conclusion.
    A key point there is "Intelligence gathering". My post again, was in response to a liberal that lied and falsely claimed that Cheney knew there were not WMD in Iraq prior to the war. It was determined by the CIA and Intelligence Community that Iraq did have wmd, and they are the ones responsible for intelligence gathering... not anyone in the administration.

    You can knit-pick my words all you want, but it doesn't change my point... Which is... The post I responded to was a complete and total liberal fabrication.

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