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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Hmmmm....I still see no retraction. I am shocked!!

    (your attacks came fast & furious but your integrity seems a bit slower)
    President Bush is retired.
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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'll take everything you own, thank you:
    You stated:

    Bush & Cheney violated the law by firing U.S. Attys for strictly political vengeance reasons

    That was not a violation of the law, as the administration has the right to hire and fire them for any reason. Besides, nobody has been tried, much less convicted, of any violation of the law.

    You also stated:

    GW Bush acted criminally by "Buying Libby's Continued Silence" with a bribe

    You have presented no evidence what so ever to back up this claim. Not surprisingly, you also ignored it completely, like you never said it.

    So my friend, no retraction by me is warranted and I'll keep my stuff. You on the other hand, by foolishly attempting to justify your false claims, have exposed yourself as another in a long line of liberals that lie to justify their uncontrollable hatred.

    Have a great day.

    ps. I have to go to work now, so don't expect me to shoot down your next attempt to justify you false claims. I hope when I return, you have issued your retraction, since your claims can't possibly be backed up... I won't hold my breath though.



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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    !!!!!

    LOLOL!

    sure, dude, that's all that was MISSING

    to catch the BIG FISH

    just a couple little libby lies, if he'd'a only come clean

    why, THE BRAIN himself woulda been bagged

    LOLOLOL!

    libby lied so rove could fly

    scooter took the big fall

    so rove could out the agent AT HER DESK

    at LANGLEY

    coming and going every day

    some SPY

    LOLOL!

    she had to serve overseas in longterm capacity to be covered, my circular friend

    when she testified personally before waxman's cmte in march, 07, she couldn't even claim herself that she was covered

    "i'm not a lawyer," is the best she could do

    because she hadn't been outta the country for more than a week in years

    Valerie Plame Distorts Her 'Covert' Status | Human Events | Find Articles at BNET

    poor little prosecutor

    couldn't even get his HAM SANDWICH

    LOLOL!

    the prosecutor himself refused to say ms plame was covered until two months AFTER scooter was convicted

    in the prosecutor's own BELATED finding that ms plame was afterall an op, he clumsily revealed why he'd been so reluctant to come forward for 19 months (libby was indicted on 10-28-05, yet the prosecutor refused to say plame was an agent until may of 07)

    it's because of paragraph 2 of his own file that in his own words says ms plame was only out of the country on TEMPORARY DUTY---TDY

    to qualify for coverage under IIPA, as you know, you have to have had a long term assignment outside our borders within the last 5 years

    THIS was the bugaboo that tripped up mr fitzgerald and brought down your whole conspiracy

    American Thinker: Fitzgerald, Plame, CIA Director Hayden and Scooter Libby

    Among the documents that Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald filed in connection with the sentencing of Scooter Libby, VP Dick Cheney's former Chief of Staff, was a lengthy PDF file which purports to support the contention that Valerie Plame Wilson was a "covert" employee of the CIA for purposes of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (IIPA, 50 U.S.C. 421-426 ). Of the 30 pages, all but three are a transcript of Plame's testimony before Rep. Henry Waxman's personal dog and pony show--the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. The remaining three pages, however, are entitled UNCLASSIFIED SUMMARY OF VALERIE WILSON'S CIA EMPLOYMENT AND COVER HISTORY and contain some fascinating material.

    The Summary begins with three remarkable paragraphs:

    On 1 January 2002, Valerie Wilson was working for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) as an operations officer in the Directorate of Operations (DO). She was assigned to the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) at CIA Headquarters, where she served as the Chief of a CPD component with responsibility for weapons proliferation issues related to Iraq.

    While assigned to CPD, Ms. Wilson engaged in Temporary Duty (TDY) travel overseas on official business. She traveled at least seven times to more than ten countries. When traveling overseas, Ms. Wilson always traveled under a cover identity--sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias--but always using cover--whether official or non-official cover (NOC)--with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.

    At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.


    fitzgerald refused to name plame as covered until may 29, 2007, when he released it to michael isikoff of newsweek

    Was She or Wasn't She? | Print Article | Newsweek.com

    scooter was convicted two months EARLIER, on march 6

    United States v. Libby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S

    and circles

    LOLOLOL!

    Okay Human events isn't a valid source another right wing rag, american thinker as well. I'm surprised you didn't post worldnetdaily or newsmax as a source on this. The fact is the CIA referred the matter to justice. If they hadn't thought that the law was broken in her outing they wouldn't have referred it. The director of the CIA stated she was a NOC. Your own information states she served overseas within the 5 years before her outing qualifying her under the act. Again trying to argue over something long established as fact.

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Why not just pin this thread as a permanent meeting place for those who want to wallow in their disgust of all things Bush/Cheney?

    It could be pinned at least until Cheney's book is published and their hopes for devastating and humiliating revelations about the former administration are dashed.


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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Okay Human events isn't a valid source another right wing rag, american thinker as well. I'm surprised you didn't post worldnetdaily or newsmax as a source on this. The fact is the CIA referred the matter to justice. If they hadn't thought that the law was broken in her outing they wouldn't have referred it. The director of the CIA stated she was a NOC. Your own information states she served overseas within the 5 years before her outing qualifying her under the act. Again trying to argue over something long established as fact.
    LOL!

    sources

    sources aside, it's undeniable that:

    1. libby was indicted on 10-28-05

    2. he was convicted on 3-6-07

    3. the prosecutor FIRST declared plame covered on 5-29-07

    4. the source for the latter is ISIKOFF

    5. ie, NEWSWEEK

    6. what a WORM, fitzgerald

    7. the sources for points 1 and 2 are WIK

    8. "the CIA referred it:" LOLOL!

    9. her testimony before waxman is verbatim, i remember it when it went down

    10. she served overseas in temporary capacity, not long term

    11. according to fitzgerald

    12. to be covered by the act, you must serve overseas longterm

    health care's dead

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    sources

    sources aside, it's undeniable that:

    1. libby was indicted on 10-28-05

    2. he was convicted on 3-6-07

    3. the prosecutor FIRST declared plame covered on 5-29-07

    4. the source for the latter is ISIKOFF

    5. ie, NEWSWEEK

    6. what a WORM, fitzgerald

    7. the sources for points 1 and 2 are WIK

    8. "the CIA referred it:" LOLOL!

    9. her testimony before waxman is verbatim, i remember it when it went down

    10. she served overseas in temporary capacity, not long term

    11. according to fitzgerald

    12. to be covered by the act, you must serve overseas longterm

    health care's dead
    Are you going to tell the director of the CIA that he doesn't understand the laws pertaining to classified information, but you do?

    You are out of your league.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Waxman
    I have been advised by the CIA that even now, after all that has happened, I cannot disclose the full nature, scope, and character of Ms. Wilson's service to our nation without causing serious damage to our national security interests. But General Hayden and the CIA have cleared these following comments for today's hearing.

    During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover. Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958. At the time of the publication of Robert Novak's column on July 14,2003, Ms. Wilson's CIA employment status was covert. This was classified information. Ms. Wilson served in senior management positions at the CIA, in which she oversaw the work of other CIA employees, and she attained the level of GS-14, step 6 under the federal pay scale. Ms. Wilson worked on some of the most sensitive and highly secretive matters handled by the CIA. Ms. Wilson served at various times overseas for the CIA. Without discussing the specifics of Ms. Wilson's classified work, it is accurate to say that she worked on the prevention of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States.

    In her various positions at the CIA, Ms. Wilson faced significant risks to her personal safety and her life. She took on serious risks on behalf of her country. Ms. Wilson's work in many situations had consequences for the security of her colleagues, and maintaining her cover was critical to protecting the safety of both colleagues and others. The disclosure of Ms. Wilson's employment with the CIA had several serious effects. First, it terminated her covert job opportunities with CIA. Second, it placed her professional contacts at greater risk. And third, it undermined the trust and confidence with which future CIA employees and sources hold the United States. This disclosure of Ms. Wilson's classified employment status with the CIA was so detrimental that the CIA filed a crimes report with the Department of Justice.

    http://oversight.house.gov/documents...2636-89494.pdf
    Quote Originally Posted by Plame Testimony Under Oath to Congress
    In the run-up to the war with Iraq, I worked in the Counterproliferation Division of the CIA, still as a covert officer whose affiliation with the CIA was classified.

    I did travel overseas on secret missions within the last five years.

    The Raw Story | Plame hearing transcript

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You stated:

    Bush & Cheney violated the law by firing U.S. Attys for strictly political vengeance reasons

    That was not a violation of the law, as the administration has the right to hire and fire them for any reason. Besides, nobody has been tried, much less convicted, of any violation of the law.
    What a weak, silly argument. You said I had no evidence to support a claim that the U.S. Atty were fired for political reasons, & I provided you with 3 links almost immediately.

    Your integrity is shot so nothing you have to say beyond this has any meaning. The only currency we all on these foums is ouw integrity & words. You have no integrity.

    & you are wrong. Not only is firing U.S. Atty's for political reasons illegal, it is presently being criminally investigated by Holder's HONEST Justice Dept. ,at this very moment.
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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Why not just pin this thread as a permanent meeting place for those who want to wallow in their disgust of all things Bush/Cheney?
    Because we don't forget criminals by sweeping their crimes under the rug. We prosecute criminals & throw them in prison!

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    Re: Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    sources

    sources aside, it's undeniable that:

    1. libby was indicted on 10-28-05

    2. he was convicted on 3-6-07

    3. the prosecutor FIRST declared plame covered on 5-29-07

    4. the source for the latter is ISIKOFF

    5. ie, NEWSWEEK

    6. what a WORM, fitzgerald

    7. the sources for points 1 and 2 are WIK

    8. "the CIA referred it:" LOLOL!

    9. her testimony before waxman is verbatim, i remember it when it went down

    10. she served overseas in temporary capacity, not long term

    11. according to fitzgerald

    12. to be covered by the act, you must serve overseas longterm

    health care's dead
    Sorry its hard to understand you when you space your thoughts out so much. Yes the CIA referred it. Both CIA directors stated she was covert. Are you saying you know more than the Director of the CIA? Temporary capacity defined as what?
    Do you really think Patrick Fitzgerald was some Democratic plant? He was appointed by a republican deputy AG Comey under Ashcroft. He is one of the most able prosecutors we have in this country. He's no worm or whatever derogatory term you want to use for the man.

    Why don't you read more about the US V Libby. Documents released during the investigation clearly show she was Covert at the time of her outing. There's also these articles

    Plame was ?covert? agent at time of name leak - Politics- msnbc.com

    http://oversight.house.gov/Documents...4030-43341.pdf

    http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/do...t_28102005.pdf

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