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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    That man should never see the light of day outside of prison and should die in prison.The fact he is dying is irreverent.Let the cancer/disease take his life that will save the tax payers money. He murdered 270 people he should have gotten the death penalty or and if they gave this man life then he should have been stuck in the worst prison possible.
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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    Do you believe there is evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Megrahi is guilty as charged?
    Difficult to be 100% certain. The early 1990's investigation by US and UK agents pointed at the two men being complicit.

    I haven't seen anything that would say they weren't. They did deny and their lawyers argued at court that the bombing may have been carried out by Palestinians on behalf of Iran - however by my recollection such splinter groups are usually only too keen to claim to be the instigators of any attack - and so far no claim by anyone else stands up.

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    Do we respect the rule of law and convict people only of crimes for which there is evidence they were responsible for, or do we just lock up anyone we think might be a bad guy?
    The answer is obvious but reality shows that what any country has at best is a mixture to some degree of the two opposites you put up.

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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Difficult to be 100% certain. The early 1990's investigation by US and UK agents pointed at the two men being complicit.

    I haven't seen anything that would say they weren't.
    Firstly, neither man was charged with being "complicit", they were charged with murdering 270 people, Lamin Khalifah Fhimah was further acquitted of all charges.

    Those two men are not required to prove they were not responsible, the CPS is required to prove that they are responsible beyond reasonable doubt. If anyone can show me evidence that they are guilty beyond reasonable doubt, please do.

    Both men were members of Libyan intelligence and so were likely involved in questionable activities at some point in their lives, that does not mean they killed 270 innocent people.

    The answer is obvious but reality shows that what any country has at best is a mixture to some degree of the two opposites you put up.
    If a Libyan court were to convict a British secret service agent of a horrific crime based on scant evidence would you be saying the same thing? Or would you be lambasting it as a politically motivated show trial?
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