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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    There are some people who I have decided are simply not worth responding too. For the sake of clarity however, I feel obliged to point out that Megrahi was tried by three judges in Holland under "Scottish laws"(and I use that term loosely!), he has never been tried by a Jury.
    But....he had a trial.

    Sounds fair to me.

    How much of a trial did this scum give my friends on that airplane?

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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Good lord, I cannot believe that they would even consider this. The world's logic truly has turned on its head and we live in an Alice and Wonderland state where right is wrong, wrong is right, up is down, down is up.

    It is disgraceful i agree.

    The bastard should rot in jail but VERY rarely do we give people life.
    What sort of message are we sending to society? You can kill as many people as you wish, just develop cancer and you can walk free.

    First the train robber
    Then the women and partner who tortured and beat and raped a child to death
    Now this filth.

    This law is a joke. This country is beginning to become a joke if we cannot even punish those who break the law


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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    It seems you can when you want a politically convenient conviction!
    He had a fair trial.
    He had the opportunity to speak his case.
    He had evidence brought against him.
    He was found guilty of a crime which killed over 200 people.

    Do we now condone murder in this society?


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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    He had a fair trial.
    He had the opportunity to speak his case.
    He had evidence brought against him.
    He was found guilty of a crime which killed over 200 people.

    Do we now condone murder in this society?
    You do realize that many, many people had their convictions overturned on appeal, right?

    The system is not perfect. Far from it.

    The case for his innocence is apparently very strong.

    The solution here is to expedite the appeal process which has been ongoing, instead of releasing him on compassionate grounds. At this rate, by the time they get around to anything, the man will be dead. And what if it turns out that he actually was innocent?
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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    You do realize that many, many people had their convictions overturned on appeal, right?
    He had a review did he not? Did it not uphold the original conviction?
    Did he not have a chance to present evidence to help his case?

    He should stay where he is until he completes his sentence, or dies in prison


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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    The guy could be dead before his appeal is concluded, some people are putting his life expectancy at weeks, as opposed to months, let alone years.
    While I do not believe the judicial process should be circumvented, though it should be expedited to the maximum extent possible, I do believe that Mr. Megrahi should receive appropriate medical treatment and his family should have full access to visit him.

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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    He had a fair trial.
    A matter of opinion!

    He had evidence brought against him.
    Which was mainly circumstantial and rested massively on the testimony of someone the head of the prosecution would later describe as "a few apples short of a picnic"!


    Do we now condone murder in this society?
    Of course not!
    That is why we should find out who is really responsible for this horrific crime and not force some sacrificial lamb to die in a jail cell thousands of miles from his family!
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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    A matter of opinion!
    Was he coerced? No.
    Was he tortured? No.
    Did he face a Judge? Yes.
    Did he have his case heard? Yes.
    Did he have access to a lawyer to defend his case? I believe that is also a yes.

    What part of that was 'unfair'?

    There is something dangerously wrong with British society and indeed any society when we seem to care for the criminal than the victims. What about those American and British families that lost members? Do their wishes not matter?

    I think this entire episode is a disgrace.


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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    You do realize that many, many people had their convictions overturned on appeal, right?

    The system is not perfect. Far from it.

    The case for his innocence is apparently very strong.

    The solution here is to expedite the appeal process which has been ongoing, instead of releasing him on compassionate grounds. At this rate, by the time they get around to anything, the man will be dead. And what if it turns out that he actually was innocent?
    AND....once his appeal overturns his conviction, he can walk out of jail.

    That's fair.

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    Re: US and UK split over prospect of Lockerbie release

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    Of course not!
    That is why we should find out who is really responsible for this horrific crime and not force some sacrificial lamb to die in a jail cell thousands of miles from his family!
    The court determined HE was guilty.

    That means he's responsible for the murder of more that two hundred people.

    Tough **** about his family, he's a mass murderer and if those people were respectable people they'd heave his ass into the gutter if he showed up at their house. If they're not respectable, they don't matter.

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