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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Most certainly Catz but you are forgetting what the founding fathers did... They wrote that constitution and bill of rights. They came together and agreed on founding principles of a nation.

    Now certain people are in fact so stubborn they wont even debate on a single piece of legislation, let alone compromise on it. Think about that... Could we freaking write a constitution today??? Not when we can't even have a civil debate.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Oh it goes beyond that, the government has been screwing the health industry for over a century incrimentally in this country, we have a combination of more grandiose overregulation and the accumulative effect of the more minor ones creating this horrid mess we're in today.
    I think that one of the wisest things I've ever read is that, while we may have the power to prolongue a semblance of life for a nearly unlimited time period, sometimes wisdom comes in knowing when life should not be prolongued. It appears that most Americans, especially in regard to end of life care, have no ability to say no to themselves.

    I totally agree with the paragraph above.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Hey, I grew up in Brooklyn. I know all about rudeness. I'm talking about being so loud and disruptive that the whole meeting is derailed.

    That's not fair to all members of the community who attend these meetings and citizens who watch them on television.

    I can't stand seeing people lose it to rudeness and talk over others. Save that stuff for the tavern.
    I agree with the rudeness, at times it is shocking. However, I am also stunned at the arrogance by the politicians and believe that their smug attitudes towards people voicing their concerns incite some of the rudeness and anger.

    When you see a person in Government talking down to you and being smug and arrogant, the helplessness to do anything about it can bring out such anger.

    Let's look at BOTH sides of this coin.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Most certainly Catz but you are forgetting what the founding fathers did... They wrote that constitution and bill of rights. They came together and agreed on founding principles of a nation.
    It took them 8 years. These town hall meetings haven't even gone on for 8 months.

    Forgive me for failing to fling my hands in the air and cry.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I never kid about my girl crushes. Claire rocks. She's such a total Missouri girl.
    But she's uglay and smug and such an Obama lemming.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    WHAT? 10,000 years agon noone lived past 25. WTF. We should all kill ourselves according to Catz. We aren't supposed to go on.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I agree with the rudeness, at times it is shocking. However, I am also stunned at the arrogance by the politicians and believe that their smug attitudes towards people voicing their concerns incite some of the rudeness and anger.

    When you see a person in Government talking down to you and being smug and arrogant, the helplessness to do anything about it can bring out such anger.

    Let's look at BOTH sides of this coin.
    Yeah, it's so smug and arrogant to put yourself into a potentially hostile position so you can answer questions for people...

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I agree with the rudeness, at times it is shocking. However, I am also stunned at the arrogance by the politicians and believe that their smug attitudes towards people voicing their concerns incite some of the rudeness and anger.
    I agree. I've often seen this in community meetings, of course, when I'm in charge of the meeting, it is generally community residents ranting at and about the poh-pohs. This comes about from a feeling of overall helplessness/powerlessness, and people have to be allowed to vent their anger for productive discussion to move forward. If that anger is stifled, it only goes underground and gets worse. When people have felt powerless and afraid for a long time, they get a lot of anger stored up, and you have to allow them to release it, even if it's uncomfortable, in order to move forward.

    People are pissed off and scared about the mess we're in, they feel powerless, and they are frightened of what will be done and how it might impact their families. Sorry that some see it as disruption, but if you don't allow people to express these feelings, you aren't going to get very far.

    That's exactly why Claire McCaskill said what she did, that it was a rough 2 hours, but it was productive.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    WHAT? 10,000 years agon noone lived past 25. WTF. We should all kill ourselves according to Catz. We aren't supposed to go on.
    Now you are being absurd for the sake of being absurd; is that really what Catz is saying......NO.


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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that one of the wisest things I've ever read is that, while we may have the power to prolongue a semblance of life for a nearly unlimited time period, sometimes wisdom comes in knowing when life should not be prolongued. It appears that most Americans, especially in regard to end of life care, have no ability to say no to themselves.
    I can agree to that, but again, that has to be an intimate family decision all the same, the doctor and some beaurocrat could care less about my family, which is the overall point of my families decisions are our business, just as all families have that commonality.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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