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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

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    It's not about partisanship, for example, I thought some things healthcare related from the Clinton administration were very good, such as the HIPPA laws and COBRA coverage, this current administration however has an obvious agenda and this bill stinks. Look at how angry those politicians are this time though, and look at how quick they are to demonize detractors, this speaks volumes. I completely disagree, this is exactly what is being proposed, but instead of a direct implementation, they are trying to sneak it in by small incrimentalist steps, I truly wish it was just partisanship guiding my call here, but that isn't the case. I'm willing to discuss things, unfortunately I don't think there is a way to salvage the current bill, if it were scrapped for something that more resembled health reform and less resembled government micro-management and interference I'd be more hopeful about it.
    As many lies as the Libs have been caught in with this bill, they could write the perfect health reform bill and no one would trust what they say.. once a liar, always a liar.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post

    As many lies as the Libs have been caught in with this bill, they could write the perfect health reform bill and no one would trust what they say.. once a liar, always a liar.
    I would listen to something if they said they said "we get it, let's slow down, get some input, and really put something golden out there" but what I am seeing is a rush to push a backloaded bill out and an unwillingness from politicians to do the right thing.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
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    You guys talk about closet liberals! These guys are behaving like GOP members!
    They probably just want to keep their jobs.. have you noticed people are PO'ed, or have you missed that?

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I would listen to something if they said they said "we get it, let's slow down, get some input, and really put something golden out there" but what I am seeing is a rush to push a backloaded bill out and an unwillingness from politicians to do the right thing.
    Most of the people in this country are seeing that too

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    They probably just want to keep their jobs.. have you noticed people are PO'ed, or have you missed that?
    If you believe that is the majority, then you are in denial. Of course many will have concerns, but as I heard this past week, some elderly folks were telling the government to stay away from their MEDICARE!!!!

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    If you believe that is the majority, then you are in denial. Of course many will have concerns, but as I heard this past week, some elderly folks were telling the government to stay away from their MEDICARE!!!!
    And why do you think that is?

    WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama unveiled a multi-trillion-dollar spending plan Thursday that would boost taxes on the wealthy, curtail Medicare, lay the groundwork for universal health care and leave a string of deficits dwarfing any in the nation's history.
    Obama's $3.55 trillion budget includes cuts in Medicare - Business ? cleveland.com

    Medicare Advantage plans, through which nearly 11 million seniors get their Medicare drug and medical benefits, have been a frequent political target for Democrats, who see them as an unnecessary bonanza for insurers. President Obama promised on the campaign trail that he'd cut payments to insurers as part of his health-overhaul plans.
    Cuts Await Medicare Insurers - WSJ.com

    Reporting from Washington Under pressure to pay for his ambitious reshaping of the nation's healthcare system, President Obama today will outline $313 billion in Medicare and Medicaid spending cuts over the next decade to help cover the cost of expanding coverage to tens of millions of America's uninsured.
    Obama to outline $313 billion in Medicare, Medicaid spending cuts - Los Angeles Times

    The guy is an idiot... who does he think is the largest, most organized voting block in this country?

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
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    You guys talk about closet liberals! These guys are behaving like GOP members!



    hmm "these guys" "they"?

    I think you fell short.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    53% (many misinformed) does not equal 'Most'.

    We live in a Republic with democratic elections. What Americas 'want' is represented by the current make-up of the House and the Senate. I want more of a balance and will cast future votes accordingly.

    We don't live in a direct democracy--I'm not sure everyone attending these Town Halls understand this.
    If that's so why do liberals complain about the Electoral College?
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    hmm "these guys" "they"?

    I think you fell short.
    I fell short in saying the blue dog Democrats are acting like GOP'ers by taking money from those that oppose the reform that is needed? I think not my friend. These Dems are bought and paid for, by our friends from the insurance providers of America.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I fell short in saying the blue dog Democrats are acting like GOP'ers by taking money from those that oppose the reform that is needed? I think not my friend. These Dems are bought and paid for, by our friends from the insurance providers of America.


    All of them? You showed that one was at a fundraiser or something.....


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