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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY! You and your fellow Liberals get ALL the credit. Frankly, there won’t be a single Republican vote for this thing except for the two or three Liberals posing as Republicans in the Senate.

    I will be the first in line to say I was wrong; they didn't raise everyone's taxes and we don't have to wait MONTHS if not YEARS for critical operations, AND, the cost was not in excess of $1 trillion dollars adding to the National Debt and funny money we call the dollar.

    I'll hold you to it!

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am not AS sure as you are; but I hope you are right.
    You can see them self destruct daily... Mobsters, Swastikas, Un-American, Obama telling us to shut up.

    The list goes on and people are starting to see what a bunch of power mad idiots there are trying to run our government.

    This is the end of liberalism for the next 20 years.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ...which is why a lot of SANE Democrats are not supporting it either.
    Blue dogs are recieving high amounts of Insurance money.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The thing that I find so amazing in this debate is how Democrats keep trying to make this out to be a Republican conspiracy to prevent passage; REALITY CHECK here folks: the Democrats do not need ONE SINGLE Republican vote to pass this crapola.....HELLOOOOoo.

    If it is so damned good for all of us, just pass the freaking bill along party lines.

    Once the final three bills are reconciled into one final, it will pass. Count on it!

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Blue dogs are recieving high amounts of Insurance money.



    Oooh lets see the link.....
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You can see them self destruct daily... Mobsters, Swastikas, Un-American, Obama telling us to shut up.

    The list goes on and people are starting to see what a bunch of power mad idiots there are trying to run our government.

    This is the end of liberalism for the next 20 years.
    I'll take that bet! I say after it passes, your party dies in what looks like it's final throes anyway.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Well, way to go off the rails there. Ask yourself this, read what you said and think whether you actually believe this, or is partisan rhetoric getting to you?
    It's not about partisanship, for example, I thought some things healthcare related from the Clinton administration were very good, such as the HIPPA laws and COBRA coverage, this current administration however has an obvious agenda and this bill stinks.
    I would expect you, by now, to be a little bit more informed than the average dimwit on the street. Politicians say a lot of things on campaign trails, and they hold a lot of views and ideas that are not always implemented.
    Look at how angry those politicians are this time though, and look at how quick they are to demonize detractors, this speaks volumes.
    Fact is, and saying otherwise is just a sad red herring, we are not getting UHC.
    I completely disagree, this is exactly what is being proposed, but instead of a direct implementation, they are trying to sneak it in by small incrimentalist steps, I truly wish it was just partisanship guiding my call here, but that isn't the case.
    Throwing that out there serves absolutely no purpose other than to end discussion.
    I'm willing to discuss things, unfortunately I don't think there is a way to salvage the current bill, if it were scrapped for something that more resembled health reform and less resembled government micro-management and interference I'd be more hopeful about it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Oooh lets see the link.....
    washingtonpost.com

    On June 19, Rep. Mike Ross of Arkansas made clear that he and a group of other conservative Democrats known as the Blue Dogs were increasingly unhappy with the direction that health-care legislation was taking in the House.

    "The committees' draft falls short," the former pharmacy owner said in a statement that day, citing, among other things, provisions that major health-care companies also strongly oppose.

    Five days later, Ross was the guest of honor at a special "health-care industry reception," one of at least seven fundraisers for the Arkansas lawmaker held by health-care companies or their lobbyists this year, according to publicly available invitations.
    You guys talk about closet liberals! These guys are behaving like GOP members!

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I'll take that bet! I say after it passes, your party dies in what looks like it's final throes anyway.
    What bet?... Just watch the next election.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    What bet?... Just watch the next election.
    Alright, will do!

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