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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's not about my industry, it's about the end of the entitlement mentality, the end of bad government policy(this turd of a bill qualififies), and the end of this damn run Washington is making for power. There is no misleading rhetoric, these idiots on the hill have been saying the things they call misleading information the whole time, and this thing is the exact definition of socialized medicine, in fact, the idiot in the white house said in his own words he wants UHC in his first term, it's pretty cut and dry who the lying side is. The Dems are lying, they are desperate, and they are playing with a grenade, unfortunately we're all in the blast radius. Finally, and no one has answered this question yet. If the government plan is so good, why did the representatives vote an exemption for themselves and supporters and have it written into the bill?
    Well, way to go off the rails there. Ask yourself this, read what you said and think whether you actually believe this, or is partisan rhetoric getting to you? I would expect you, by now, to be a little bit more informed than the average dimwit on the street. Politicians say a lot of things on campaign trails, and they hold a lot of views and ideas that are not always implemented. Fact is, and saying otherwise is just a sad red herring, we are not getting UHC. Throwing that out there serves absolutely no purpose other than to end discussion. Maybe you should look at this another way, maybe be glad that some are NOT pushing their own personal believes over a more realistic and pragmatic approach?

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's not about my industry, it's about the end of the entitlement mentality, the end of bad government policy(this turd of a bill qualififies), and the end of this damn run Washington is making for power. There is no misleading rhetoric, these idiots on the hill have been saying the things they call misleading information the whole time, and this thing is the exact definition of socialized medicine, in fact, the idiot in the white house said in his own words he wants UHC in his first term, it's pretty cut and dry who the lying side is. The Dems are lying, they are desperate, and they are playing with a grenade, unfortunately we're all in the blast radius. Finally, and no one has answered this question yet. If the government plan is so good, why did the representatives vote an exemption for themselves and supporters and have it written into the bill?
    If you are against a entitlement mentality, then I suppose you are against handouts in the form of tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations as well, yes? Also, you are opposed to the government paying-out whatever pharmaceutical companies charge for medicare prescriptions, and actually have the ability to negotiate, just as the insurance companies do, right?

    And it is not a socialistic system, you are stuck in talking points mode. Stop reading your companies fliers to employees. I bet they are telling you guys to write your congressman and tell them to vote against the HC Reform Bill, aren't they?
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    We shall see. And remember, if it is right, we get 100% of the credit.
    ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY! You and your fellow Liberals get ALL the credit. Frankly, there wonít be a single Republican vote for this thing except for the two or three Liberals posing as Republicans in the Senate.

    I will be the first in line to say I was wrong; they didn't raise everyone's taxes and we don't have to wait MONTHS if not YEARS for critical operations, AND, the cost was not in excess of $1 trillion dollars adding to the National Debt and funny money we call the dollar.


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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Seems the Libs are starting their own "Grass Roots" movement.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    There is no guess work here tl, socialized medicine hasn't worked yet, the Obama plan is based on the worst parts of the other systems, so when, not it, it fails, it's the Democrats alone going down. I will bring this analogy back out, this proposal is for the Democrats a grenade with the pin pulled.
    ...which is why a lot of SANE Democrats are not supporting it either.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Once again, my friend, drop the "talking points," this is not proposed socialized medicine. I do understand you are an insurance man and only want to protect your industry, but please do so without the misleading rhetoric.

    Oh, and you do appear to be 10% crazier, more for the money I suppose.
    The definition of irony if not blatant hypocrisy.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ...which is why a lot of SANE Democrats are not supporting it either.
    Which is why it will go down in flames.... and the Libs are going to get burnt over it.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Which is why it will go down in flames.... and the Libs are going to get burnt over it.
    I am not AS sure as you are; but I hope you are right.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    The thing that I find so amazing in this debate is how Democrats keep trying to make this out to be a Republican conspiracy to prevent passage; REALITY CHECK here folks: the Democrats do not need ONE SINGLE Republican vote to pass this crapola.....HELLOOOOoo.

    If it is so damned good for all of us, just pass the freaking bill along party lines.


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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The definition of irony if not blatant hypocrisy.
    When will you learn this?

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