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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You'd better hurry. Obama's at 47 percent and plummeting, and 2010 is around the corner.

    This could be worse than '94 was for Clinton.
    Actually, as of today he is at 50%, with 42% disapproving and 8% undecided. If the HC plan goes through and people realize it is not what Republicans are painting it, the GOP can kiss their ass goodbye.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Actually, as of today he is at 50%, with 42% disapproving and 8% undecided. If the HC plan goes through and people realize it is not what Republicans are painting it, the GOP can kiss their ass goodbye.
    Where do you get your numbers?... CBS?... NBC?... CNBC?... Try a real polling company.

    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Thatís the lowest level of total approval yet recorded. The Presidentís ratings first fell below 50% just a few weeks ago on July 25. Fifty-two percent (52%) now disapprove.

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 29% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a rating of -8 percent

    Nationally, support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. Just 42% favor the plan while 53% are opposed.
    Do you really think it will pass?

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Where do you get your numbers?... CBS?... NBC?... CNBC?... Try a real polling company.



    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

    Gallup is where I get my info.

    Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

    I was wrong earlier, his rating by their polling is 53%.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Do you really think it will pass?
    I do indeed. But if I were you and your party, I would be seriously praying against it. When people realize that it isn't what the GOP attempted to scare them with, that party will have hell to pay.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    So you think that people should be denied for pre-existing conditions? Back in the 90's, when Clinton attempted healthcare overhaul, the insurance companies said they were all for getting rid of the pre-existing condition exemptions in insurance, yet after the effort died they never looked back and still will not cover those with pre-existing conditions.
    I'm not a fan of pre-existing conditions, nobody is, insurance companies included, but they exist because of the economic reality of their expense. That doesn't mean that people with a bad health coverage history can't get covered, it just means some extra insurance shopping will be in their future. And again, when professionals in the insurance business cann't get pre existing conditions to affordability what makes you think that a bunch of economically incompetent beaurocrats can? And that fact would cause the states to balk.

    Actually, as of today he is at 50%, with 42% disapproving and 8% undecided. If the HC plan goes through and people realize it is not what Republicans are painting it, the GOP can kiss their ass goodbye.
    I don't trust gallop, but if they were right, you had better pray for Democrat sanity. It won't be what's promised(never is), they can't get it right(they never do), and the Democrats will take the blame for 100% of the fallout.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm not a fan of pre-existing conditions, nobody is, insurance companies included, but they exist because of the economic reality of their expense. That doesn't mean that people with a bad health coverage history can't get covered, it just means some extra insurance shopping will be in their future. And again, when professionals in the insurance business cann't get pre existing conditions to affordability what makes you think that a bunch of economically incompetent beaurocrats can? And that fact would cause the states to balk.

    I don't trust gallop, but if they were right, you had better pray for Democrat sanity. It won't be what's promised(never is), they can't get it right(they never do), and the Democrats will take the blame for 100% of the fallout.
    Bravo La, Bravo.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm not a fan of pre-existing conditions, nobody is, insurance companies included, but they exist because of the economic reality of their expense. That doesn't mean that people with a bad health coverage history can't get covered, it just means some extra insurance shopping will be in their future. And again, when professionals in the insurance business cann't get pre existing conditions to affordability what makes you think that a bunch of economically incompetent beaurocrats can? And that fact would cause the states to balk.

    I don't trust gallop, but if they were right, you had better pray for Democrat sanity. It won't be what's promised(never is), they can't get it right(they never do), and the Democrats will take the blame for 100% of the fallout.
    We shall see. And remember, if it is right, we get 100% of the credit.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    We shall see. And remember, if it is right, we get 100% of the credit.
    There is no guess work here tl, socialized medicine hasn't worked yet, the Obama plan is based on the worst parts of the other systems, so when, not it, it fails, it's the Democrats alone going down. I will bring this analogy back out, this proposal is for the Democrats a grenade with the pin pulled.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    There is no guess work here tl, socialized medicine hasn't worked yet, the Obama plan is based on the worst parts of the other systems, so when, not it, it fails, it's the Democrats alone going down. I will bring this analogy back out, this proposal is for the Democrats a grenade with the pin pulled.
    Once again, my friend, drop the "talking points," this is not proposed socialized medicine. I do understand you are an insurance man and only want to protect your industry, but please do so without the misleading rhetoric.

    Oh, and you do appear to be 10% crazier, more for the money I suppose.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Once again, my friend, drop the "talking points," this is not proposed socialized medicine. I do understand you are an insurance man and only want to protect your industry, but please do so without the misleading rhetoric.
    It's not about my industry, it's about the end of the entitlement mentality, the end of bad government policy(this turd of a bill qualififies), and the end of this damn run Washington is making for power. There is no misleading rhetoric, these idiots on the hill have been saying the things they call misleading information the whole time, and this thing is the exact definition of socialized medicine, in fact, the idiot in the white house said in his own words he wants UHC in his first term, it's pretty cut and dry who the lying side is. The Dems are lying, they are desperate, and they are playing with a grenade, unfortunately we're all in the blast radius. Finally, and no one has answered this question yet. If the government plan is so good, why did the representatives vote an exemption for themselves and supporters and have it written into the bill?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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