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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I checked all of your links and found not one single proposition. All of them said make healthcare more affordable, but HOW? The rest mirrored the Democratic plan. So typical, full of rhetoric, but no substance. And "government takeover?" Misinformation seems to be your policy of choice.
    Denial is strong with this one. Here let me post them here and perhaps then you can illustrate point by point how these are not propositions:

    Brings greater fairness to the tax code by extending tax savings to those who currently do not have employer-provided insurance but purchase health insurance on their own. This provision would provide an “above the line” deduction that is equal to the cost of an individual’s or family’s insurance premiums.

    Provides immediate substantial financial assistance, through new refundable and advanceable tax credits, to low- and modest-income Americans.

    The plan allows states, small businesses, associations, and other organizations to band together and offer health insurance at lower costs.

    Implements comprehensive medical liability reform that will reduce costly, unnecessary defensive medicine practiced by doctors trying to protect themselves from overzealous trial lawyers.

    Provides Medicare and Medicaid with additional authority and resources to stop waste, fraud, and abuse that costs taxpayers billions of dollars every year.

    Creates incentives to save now for future and long-term health care needs by improving health savings accounts and flexible spending arrangements as well as creating new tax benefits to offset the cost of long-term care premiums.

    Gives financial help to caregivers who provide in-home care for a loved one.

    Makes it easier for Americans to keep health care coverage regardless of a change in or loss of a job.

    Encourages states to create a Universal Access Program by establishing and/or reforming existing programs to guarantee all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses, have access to affordable coverage.

    Helps employers offer health care coverage to their workers by reducing their administrative costs through a new small business tax credit.

    Allowing dependents to remain on their parents’ health policies up to the age of 25, the number of uninsured Americans could be reduced by up to 7 million.

    Provides flexibility to Medicaid and SCHIP beneficiaries by allowing them to apply the value of their benefit to a health plan that better meets their needs than the one-size-fits-all government program.

    Promotes prevention and wellness by giving employers and insurers greater flexibility to financially reward employees who seek to achieve or maintain a healthy weight, quit smoking, and manage chronic illnesses like diabetes.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I could be wrong, but they were there not to disrupt but to make thier voices heard when the union thugs pre-empted them, they got loud... I would to.
    Well, we disagree. They appeared to have a disruptive agenda and not just make their position known.

    If you get hot under the collar common sense would say take a step back and calm down first.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Well, we disagree. They appeared to have a disruptive agenda and not just make their position known.

    If you get hot under the collar common sense would say take a step back and calm down first.


    What say you about left wing paid counter peoples, and the union thugs?
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    I watched part of that video and didn't see any disrupting but I saw another video where protesters basically didn't allow the meeting to take place until they were physically removed. Just how common that is I don't know. Maybe it only happened once.
    That's the difference here. There is a vast difference between not allowing the meeting to take place at all because you are so disruptive, and being forceful or loud sometimes.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What say you about left wing paid counter peoples, and the union thugs?
    They ought to be exposed and their misbehavior addressed in the same manner.

    Fair is fair.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Denial is strong with this one. Here let me post them here and perhaps then you can illustrate point by point how these are not propositions:

    Brings greater fairness to the tax code by extending tax savings to those who currently do not have employer-provided insurance but purchase health insurance on their own. This provision would provide an “above the line” deduction that is equal to the cost of an individual’s or family’s insurance premiums.

    Provides immediate substantial financial assistance, through new refundable and advanceable tax credits, to low- and modest-income Americans.

    The plan allows states, small businesses, associations, and other organizations to band together and offer health insurance at lower costs.

    Implements comprehensive medical liability reform that will reduce costly, unnecessary defensive medicine practiced by doctors trying to protect themselves from overzealous trial lawyers.

    Provides Medicare and Medicaid with additional authority and resources to stop waste, fraud, and abuse that costs taxpayers billions of dollars every year.

    Creates incentives to save now for future and long-term health care needs by improving health savings accounts and flexible spending arrangements as well as creating new tax benefits to offset the cost of long-term care premiums.

    Gives financial help to caregivers who provide in-home care for a loved one.

    Makes it easier for Americans to keep health care coverage regardless of a change in or loss of a job.

    Encourages states to create a Universal Access Program by establishing and/or reforming existing programs to guarantee all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses, have access to affordable coverage.

    Helps employers offer health care coverage to their workers by reducing their administrative costs through a new small business tax credit.

    Allowing dependents to remain on their parents’ health policies up to the age of 25, the number of uninsured Americans could be reduced by up to 7 million.

    Provides flexibility to Medicaid and SCHIP beneficiaries by allowing them to apply the value of their benefit to a health plan that better meets their needs than the one-size-fits-all government program.

    Promotes prevention and wellness by giving employers and insurers greater flexibility to financially reward employees who seek to achieve or maintain a healthy weight, quit smoking, and manage chronic illnesses like diabetes.

    This is the Democratic plan. Have you read what Obama is promoting? These are the same things. The only actual difference is that Obama calls for a public option, rather than a banning together of states, associations, etc.. So what is your point? I already said that there were no real proposals made and what was there mirrored the Democratic bill.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I could be wrong, but they were there not to disrupt but to make thier voices heard when the union thugs pre-empted them, they got loud... I would to.
    I think the whole point in closing the doors was that they were being loud and disruptive. Had they remained courteous and respectful I don't believe that they would have closed the doors.

    I could be wrong, butthat's what it looks like.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...post1058188594

    Huh. Doesn't seem so wrong to me. Both parties are hiring fake protestors.

    Aside from being represenative of people who need money, Spector may be right.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What say you about left wing paid counter peoples, and the union thugs?
    If your enemy attacks you with a gun, don't fight with a knife, use a gun.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    If your enemy attacks you with a gun, don't fight with a knife, use a gun.


    Are you saying you support this?
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