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Thread: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I believe that a lot of this "outrage" is orchestrated. The disruption is deliberate and not because it reflects the genuine dissatisfaction of the people, but because the authors of the disruption would like it to appear that way.

    It's much easier to turn a town hall discussion on it's ear than it is to put together a march on Washington. But you have enough town hall meetings go south because some folks decide they are going to yell and scream and act like morons instead of intelligently addressing the issues they have...well that gets better airplay.
    That's a clear description of the heart of the matter. Town hall meetings are designed to let people intelligently discuss matters at hand. They aren't supposed to be screamfests for the Jerry Springer or dittohead crowd.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That's actually quite minor when weighted against most of the other problems, we pay more for our insurance because of mandatory ER treatment(abused frequently, most expensive care), tort law induced over testing, bill padding over testing, sky high malpractice insurance costs, overregulation, and mandatory coverage laws in every state, those are the real problems of the system, especially when you add in end of life care.
    We pay more because of all of that. True. But for most people, a HUGE percentage of total health care costs, way over 50%, comes at end of life. And much of that care is spent keeping people alive for no benefit.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    WHAT? 10,000 years agon noone lived past 25. WTF. We should all kill ourselves according to Catz. We aren't supposed to go on.

    Some people should, in fact, just kill themselves.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are not a good one to be talking about facts, or god forbid, reality, and certainly not truth. You have not shown one example of what you are talking about, and there are countless examples of town halls with politicians politely answering questions.
    Last time I looked, I wasn't the topic of this thread. Your desperate attempts to make it so have been noted however; now run along and troll someone who cares.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Some people should, in fact, just kill themselves.
    And do us all a favor. I remember this favorite saying of yours.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    We pay more because of all of that. True. But for most people, a HUGE percentage of total health care costs, way over 50%, comes at end of life. And much of that care is spent keeping people alive for no benefit.
    But again, most end of life care comes during the Medicare years, so unless you want to mention the other factors, then technically your own insurance isn't affected that much by end of life care.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Last time I looked, I wasn't the topic of this thread. Your desperate attempts to make it so have been noted however; now run along and troll someone who cares.
    Lord, I could not have asked for a better response for me. I corrected something you said, without ever referring to you. Your reply started "I see you are having difficulty". Last time I looked, I wasn't the topic of this thread. Your desperate attempts to make it so have been noted however; now run along and troll someone who cares.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    But again, most end of life care comes during the Medicare years, so unless you want to mention the other factors, then technically your own insurance isn't affected that much by end of life care.
    Medicare does get misused. Most of the medicare expenditures occur in the last six months of life.

    If we were smart, we would refer folks to hospice much sooner.

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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    But again, most end of life care comes during the Medicare years, so unless you want to mention the other factors, then technically your own insurance isn't affected that much by end of life care.
    I'm not just talking about the medicare years, although if you add those up with the end of life expenses you are likely at 80% or more of the typical person's total health care expenses (just throwing a reasonable number out there). And no, my policy is not affected. But my tax rate sure as hell will be. And it seems a bit unfair to make everyone else pay because someone cannot part with his essentially already dead Grandmother.
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    Re: Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    And do us all a favor. I remember this favorite saying of yours.
    He was correct, of course. Some people would, in fact, do us a favor if they would off themselves. Hitler, for instance. Most of the people who served in his high command. Saddam Hussein. His sons.

    There is a long list of people who would have done a great service to humanity through suicide.

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