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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    I think criminal activity needs to be pursued & punished even when it involves former Presidents, VP's or their henchmen. Ford's 1974 pardon of Nixon (& Nixon's acceptance of same) may possibly have emboldened, GW Bush, D. Cheney, Rove et al into feeling they were also above the law....like Nixon.
    I say Obama should step totally aside & let AG Holder do his job & let the chips fall where they may. (a special prosecutor would be the way to go, imo)
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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    I'm glad the inner Rove is as ugly as the outer Rove. I know it's a terribly superficial thing to say, but he is a pure scumbag. No surprise here.

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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    There can be no comparison in terms of illegality or even scumbaggery between these firings and the hatchet job during this cover-up:

    Obama Accuses Fired Inspector General of AmeriCorps of Being 'Confused, Disoriented' - Political News - FOXNews.com

    Walpin led a 2008 investigation into allegations of misused taxpayer funds distributed by AmeriCorps to the St. HOPE Academy of Sacramento, founded in 1989 by Obama supporter and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. Walpin said Johnson, now mayor of Sacramento, misused roughly $850,000 in AmeriCorps funds. His referral to the U.S. Attorney's Office did not result in the filing of criminal charges. But St. HOPE officials agreed, via a settlement, to repay half of its AmeriCorps grants.

    On Tuesday, Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, sought all White House information Walpin's firing. That followed a request from Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, that AmeriCorps provide "any and all records, e-mail, memoranda, documents, communications, or other information" related to Walpin's firing. Issa and Grassley are minority members of congressional oversight panels.

    Republicans also have asked what role, if any, First Lady Michelle Obama played in Walpin's firing. The White House denies she had any voice in Walpin's future with the agency.

    Republicans began to question Michelle Obama's role after press reports indicated she was taking a strong interest in AmeriCorps activities and when her former chief of staff, Jackie Norris, became a "senior adviser" to the Corporation for National and Community Service, also known as AmeriCorps.



    This admin., in only a few months, has re-defined 'corruption on a grand scale'.

    It is worth mentioning that it is only their hubris which is bringing down the house. The MSM has had no interest in these blatant crimes, but the sheer weight and volume of them, combined with utter arrogance and unwillingness to even attempt to cover them up properly, will eventually cause the feeding frenzy of media they so richly deserve.
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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    Quote Originally Posted by Movinmetal View Post
    There can be no comparison in terms of illegality or even scumbaggery between these firings and the hatchet job during this cover-up:

    Obama Accuses Fired Inspector General of AmeriCorps of Being 'Confused, Disoriented' - Political News - FOXNews.com

    Walpin led a 2008 investigation into allegations of misused taxpayer funds distributed by AmeriCorps to the St. HOPE Academy of Sacramento, founded in 1989 by Obama supporter and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. Walpin said Johnson, now mayor of Sacramento, misused roughly $850,000 in AmeriCorps funds. His referral to the U.S. Attorney's Office did not result in the filing of criminal charges. But St. HOPE officials agreed, via a settlement, to repay half of its AmeriCorps grants.

    On Tuesday, Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, sought all White House information Walpin's firing. That followed a request from Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, that AmeriCorps provide "any and all records, e-mail, memoranda, documents, communications, or other information" related to Walpin's firing. Issa and Grassley are minority members of congressional oversight panels.

    Republicans also have asked what role, if any, First Lady Michelle Obama played in Walpin's firing. The White House denies she had any voice in Walpin's future with the agency.

    Republicans began to question Michelle Obama's role after press reports indicated she was taking a strong interest in AmeriCorps activities and when her former chief of staff, Jackie Norris, became a "senior adviser" to the Corporation for National and Community Service, also known as AmeriCorps.



    This admin., in only a few months, has re-defined 'corruption on a grand scale'.

    It is worth mentioning that it is only their hubris which is bringing down the house. The MSM has had no interest in these blatant crimes, but the sheer weight and volume of them, combined with utter arrogance and unwillingness to even attempt to cover them up properly, will eventually cause the feeding frenzy of media they so richly deserve.
    Hey, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Care to talk about what we are?

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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hey, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Care to talk about what we are?



    Um...yes, this is also bad, just to a much, much smaller degree..

    Just a bit fascinated about where our 'investigation dollars' are going. Sorry to offend!


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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    Quote Originally Posted by Movinmetal View Post
    Um...yes, this is also bad, just to a much, much smaller degree..

    Just a bit fascinated about where our 'investigation dollars' are going. Sorry to offend!


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    Looks as if it is going to investigate possible criminal activity. You disapprove of that?

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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The Justice Department has been sitting on top of some pretty explosive documents for quite a while. Today, those documents were released, and they show that Karl Rove had an active role in the firing of US Attorneys. In the case of David Iglesias, it was for not selectively prosecuting Democrats in New Mexico.
    This was all perfect until you got here. Nothing in this article indicates that the reason he was fired was because he refused to selectively prosecute Dems in New Mexico.

    Even if we assume that the reason he was fired was because he didn't investigate the Dems, you still have to show that that his decision not to prosecute was right and that the Reps fired him in spite of knowing that.

    If Iglesias refused to investigation an issue that legitimately deserved investigation or that the DoJ believed legitimately deserved investigation, then their decision to fire him is entirely appropriate.

    The burden of proof here is incredibly high, which is probably why the Dems haven't indicted anyone yet. It's more beneficial to let it play out like this, where the legal realities aren't on the front page.
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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    Got to love the right wingers..

    Investigating government corruption during a Republican government.. never!! unless its the Dems doing the corrupting of course.There was no wrong doing so no investigations is needed.

    Investigating a President for supposed corruption which then morfs into an investigation into his sex life... HELL YEA, lets spend half a billion dollars doing that!.. he is after all a Democrat. Most expensive blow job in history and you got only a lousy T-Shirt saying "Clinton lied" out of it.

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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Got to love the right wingers..

    Investigating government corruption during a Republican government.. never!! unless its the Dems doing the corrupting of course.There was no wrong doing so no investigations is needed.

    Investigating a President for supposed corruption which then morfs into an investigation into his sex life... HELL YEA, lets spend half a billion dollars doing that!.. he is after all a Democrat. Most expensive blow job in history and you got only a lousy T-Shirt saying "Clinton lied" out of it.

    Right wing = hypocrites and the party of "NO" and double standards.
    Thanks, this was directly on point and really added a lot to the discussion.
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    Re: Wider Role Is Seen for Rove in Firings of Prosecutors

    From the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/12/us...gewanted=print

    A federal prosecutor, Nora Dannehy, is continuing to investigate the firings, including whether officials gave false or misleading statements to Congress. The testimony of Mr. Gonzales, the former attorney general who resigned amid the controversy over the firings, appears to have received particular scrutiny, according to lawyers with knowledge of the case.
    I'm happy to read this because I strongly suspect he lied to Congress. I would love to see him get into deep doo doo. The guy has no morals.

    A separate review released last year by the Justice Department inspector general faulted Mr. Gonzales’s misstatements to Congress about the firings and his “extraordinary lack of recollection about the entire removal process.”
    Yup. He's a liar alright.

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