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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    The whole argument is asinine; we have lots of fuel to extract, and a lot of time. They should relax mileage standards and produce cars people want. That's how you would end up with a healthy auto industry... as well as smashing unions; those that have inflated wages and have benefits that cripple companies.

    They can try to develop e-cars, or hybrid cars, hydrogen cars or wood burning cars, but don't expect many sales, and surely don't put your company's fortunes on the line with them.

    These shoe boxes that are supposed to save the planet result in more fatalities or deaths. Of course... it's the average Joe and his family, or the poorer amongst us that tries to save a few bucks that drive the small, light death traps. The average amongst us... take it in the teeth again, and for what?

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Please. The CTS is crap. I wouldn't give that POS to my worst enemy. A volume control 2 inches wide on the front of the steering wheel? Whose bright idea was that? Granted, it could compete with the top of the line Fiat in a pinch.

    The DTS is lord and master of Cadillac.

    Oh and since you obviously have zero knowledge of basic history around cadillac you would have known the STS was around for years before the CTS was even drawn on paper.

    And before you snap those fingers, it was called the Seville before the STS just like the DTS was the Deville.

    The CTS's ancestor was the Catera. And just like its offspring it too was a POS on a German Oldsmobile frame.
    It is called an Opel

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Small cars can sell for premium prices in Europe, with many lux add ons that can drive the price higher. While smal cars in the US are labelled as "being cheap" cars and the price point is the main focus. So a small car that gets a large amount of high tech items like a modern diesel engine, a nav system and leather seating will sell in Europe allowing for a profit to be made, it would not sell in the US as most US consumers would rather spend the money on the larger car then the smaller one
    If we are talking about milage then diesel is the way to go.

    I just saw a car show from England where they ran 3 diesel cars on the highway. The Subaru Legacy Wagon, the VW Polo and the Jaguar X or S Type which had 2 turbos on it.

    They were averaging on the highway anywhere from 40 MPG to 80 MPG.

    Even the Jag at 80 MPH on the highway with the AC on was at 40 MPG.

    They are clean burning diesels and a gallon of diesel fuel is alot cheaper than a gallon of gas.

    A diesel engine will last a lot longer than the batteries of an electric car so I don't see whay those cars can't be sold inthe US tomorrow.

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The batteries have a lifespan of over 10 years. Do the research please, it is clear you know jack **** about the Chevy Volt.
    Since the electric cars haven't been around for 10 years they don't really know how long the batteries will last under real world conditions.

    If you rely on the warranty from the manufacture, you will be dissapointed.

    The warranty is only valid if the dealer wants to fix the car, and they usually don't want to fix the car.

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I think so, but don't hold me to it. It also depends. While probably bigger than the Metro which was essentially a lawn mower with a roof, I think the Prizm was a sedan.

    Anyway, for some reason older cars always got better gas milesage, and I don't think it was just because of the horsies or cylinders. The new Smart car (parent company is Mercedes-Benz I believe) is a three-cylinder car and it only claims 41 MPG city. My old Nissan from my teenage years damn near got that, and it had a bit of zip to it.
    Both of those cars are still being sold today.

    The Metro is now called a Suzuki Swift and the Prizm is a Toyota Corolla.

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So then is it that people just don't want cars that perform like crap on the freeway anymore?
    Have you ever driven the old Sprint or Metro with the 3 cylinder engine?

    It performed well on the freeway, it had plenty of power.

    Americans just don't want econo boxes as their everyday car and most people can't afford a car dedicated to commuting with the insurance rates the way they are.

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post

    And Cadillac Hursts actually have already been immortalized
    The word is spelled Hearse and the Ecto was a combination car not a straight hearse but made up to look like an ambulance.

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Good one....It got around 7mpg...No?


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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    If it could come in at $25k I'd be more apt to consider it as I'm the ideal person. I commute 20 miles a day, with the occasional extra 10-20 miles for errands. Weekends could potentially see me in the 50-80 mile range. Occasionally I take trips, but the longest of those trips is about 250 miles.

    That said, the price right now is probably a bit much and more to the point I live in a town house without a garage so I'd have no where to charge it.

    So I'll be happy with the 45ish MPG I get on my Vulcan.

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    Re: GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If we are talking about milage then diesel is the way to go.

    I just saw a car show from England where they ran 3 diesel cars on the highway. The Subaru Legacy Wagon, the VW Polo and the Jaguar X or S Type which had 2 turbos on it.

    They were averaging on the highway anywhere from 40 MPG to 80 MPG.

    Even the Jag at 80 MPH on the highway with the AC on was at 40 MPG.

    They are clean burning diesels and a gallon of diesel fuel is alot cheaper than a gallon of gas.

    A diesel engine will last a lot longer than the batteries of an electric car so I don't see whay those cars can't be sold inthe US tomorrow.
    There have been diesels sold in the US, and still are. Overall, the smaller ones have not been a marketing success for some reason. I drove a Mercedes diesel once, and a Volvo. Both were gutless wonders. If other diesels have similar performance, then there is no mystery why diesels haven't been too popular here. Some of the larger pickups are diesels, and get better mileage than their gasoline counterparts, or so I'm told. The problem is the same as the problem with the Volt: Initial cost. A big trailer hauling rig with a diesel engine is a hefty investment.
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