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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    We've been telling you Obama's no better than Bush for months now. Maybe you're starting to awaken to that fact?
    I don't think that is true. Obama is worlds better than Bush, he is just not perfect.

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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You cant criticize a person for doing something that you or your own people has done more than once..it is just an own goal of epic proportions.
    Yes, yes you can. What you call for here is excusing the sins of the present by the sins of the past. Past people ****ed up. We should have done something then, but we didn't. But just because we failed then doesn't mean we have to continue failing now. At some point, we have to stop this ****. If we want to save the Republic, at some point we have to say "I don't care you did wrong in the past, we're starting now to enforce decency and responsibility in government". Cheny should be in jail, no doubt about it. One of the bad things Obama did was to not hold the previous administrations responsible for their crimes. But that doesn't mean Obama should be given a clear slate to do as he wishes. The only reason Obama, or the Democrats at large, don't push for proper punishment/investigation is because they don't want to open that can of worms. They've acted just as bad, just as improperly, and the status quo will not benefit by holding politicians responsible for their actions.

    Both sides suck, both have done bad, it's time we criticize the lot and demand responsible government and that politicians are held accountable for their actions. No more free rides.
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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And that aint what I am doing. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the original poster.
    You need to post where I have ever defended this about any politician or you need to stop lying about the Good Reverend.


    You cant criticize a person for doing something that you or your own people has done more than once..it is just an own goal of epic proportions.
    Who was my "own people"? FAIL


    Now my personal opinion about Obama doing this, if it is true, is that it is wrong. He should not pad the Town Hall with supporters or pre screen the questions. He needs to grab the bull by the horns so to say.

    But that does not change the very fact that the OP is criticizing Obama for something that politicians in the party of "NO" including former Presidents have done time and time again and are still doing as my link proved.

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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    We've been telling you Obama's no better than Bush for months now. Maybe you're starting to awaken to that fact?
    Dude, your a libertarian which in Pete speak is a shamed republican.

    Bush is your hero, you just won't admit it.
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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think that is true. Obama is worlds better than Bush, he is just not perfect.
    Obama is making Carter look good, and he's not even a year in yet.

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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think that is true. Obama is worlds better than Bush, he is just not perfect.
    I honestly see no difference between the two. Both seem to take solace in grabbing more power for themselves and weakening the individual freedoms of the American people.

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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And that aint what I am doing. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the original poster.

    You cant criticize a person for doing something that you or your own people has done more than once..it is just an own goal of epic proportions.

    Now my personal opinion about Obama doing this, if it is true, is that it is wrong. He should not pad the Town Hall with supporters or pre screen the questions. He needs to grab the bull by the horns so to say.

    But that does not change the very fact that the OP is criticizing Obama for something that politicians in the party of "NO" including former Presidents have done time and time again and are still doing as my link proved.
    Why do you claim to be a centrist when that clearly isn't true?

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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think that is true. Obama is worlds better than Bush, he is just not perfect.
    That's hoot. PBO is already proving to be the worst president in US history and it hasn't even been a year, yet.
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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Dude, your a libertarian which in Pete speak is a shamed republican.

    Bush is your hero, you just won't admit it.
    Yeah, what was I thinking? Either you are with His Obamaness or you are against Him.

    Better be careful -- I may be branded a counter-revolutionary with that sort of talk ...

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    Re: Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Yeah, what was I thinking? Either you are with His Obamaness or you are against Him.

    Better be careful -- I may be branded a counter-revolutionary with that sort of talk ...
    And if you're against him you're a racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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