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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I guess on top of everything else, you're a race-baiter, too, eh?
    When push comes to shove, the Democrats will ALWAYS resort to the race card.

    After all, the facts are against them on this health scam legislation.

    Have any of the Messiah followers explained just why they want to destroy the nation's health care system, or are they just passing the lie that they really want to "fix" it, as if the end results aren't clear to all?

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You failed to state that the "minority" was not legally resident in the aforementioned district.

    What you are doing is responding to the perfectly valid point that minorities in gerrymandered district also have a right to confront their Congressthing with issues, and the Congressthing is obligated to listen.

    No, instead, you're entering irrelevant ad hominem BS because you can't address the truth. You seem to have some issue against minorities being represented equally in Congress.
    Actually, you seriously need to read and comprehend the thread before making accusations. I started my comments based on some one pointing out that the meeting was not representative of the district since it was almost strictly white was not "bringing race into the issue".

    Now, I repeat the point that contrary to your claim, Neither I nor any one else stated that any one did not have a right to be heard. You made it up and attached it to me, which is incredibly dishonest.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Originally Posted by rathi
    It then creates new regulations for health insurance providers such as no denying for pre-existing conditions, no lifetime maximums and minimum required covered treatments.
    I also believe that insurance companies would not be allowed to increase premiums if you developed some kind of sickness. Basically forcing the insurance companies to assume more risk, without being able to collect for it.
    If I came to you and said " I'll give you $500 a month, and you cover all my potential medical needs up to $1 million worth". I am healthy and have little history of medical issues. You might take me up on that. If I came to you and said "I'll give you $500 a month, and you cover all my medical needs up to $1 million worth, and oh by the way I have cancer that requires chemotherapy and I have to take 3 different kinds of medication" you might consider not making that deal, since you are likely to take a big loss. You would either ask for more money, or not offer coverage at all.

    Now insurance companies cannot raise premiums on you mid term for any reason already. They have 30 days to "inspect" and cancel you at the beginning of a policy(or charge more premium) and its usually 60 days prior to the renewal of the policy, if they are raising rates or canceling your coverage. The industry has to be allowed to raise rates for increased risk assuming. The government will have to raise rates, in the form of taxes, for the exact same thing. Telling a private company it can't, is forcing it out of business.
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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, you seriously need to read and comprehend the thread before making accusations. I started my comments based on some one pointing out that the meeting was not representative of the district since it was almost strictly white was not "bringing race into the issue".

    Now, I repeat the point that contrary to your claim, Neither I nor any one else stated that any one did not have a right to be heard. You made it up and attached it to me, which is incredibly dishonest.
    No.

    I read your post.

    Clearly if the "minority" is white, then in your eyes they should shut up and be fitted for slave collars.

    You were quite plain.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    I read your post.

    Clearly if the "minority" is white, then in your eyes they should shut up and be fitted for slave collars.

    You were quite plain.
    Keep lying about me and thinking you are accomplishing anything. Clearly, I said nothing even remotely like that.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Now insurance companies cannot raise premiums on you mid term for any reason already. They have 30 days to "inspect" and cancel you at the beginning of a policy(or charge more premium) and its usually 60 days prior to the renewal of the policy, if they are raising rates or canceling your coverage. The industry has to be allowed to raise rates for increased risk assuming. The government will have to raise rates, in the form of taxes, for the exact same thing. Telling a private company it can't, is forcing it out of business.
    I agree with your analysis, although I don't think the consequences would be quite as drastic. The dutch have find a workable solution called "risk equalization".

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_equalization]Risk equalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I agree with your analysis, although I don't think the consequences would be quite as drastic. The dutch have find a workable solution called "risk equalization".

    Risk equalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    If the government is subsidizing the "discriminatory" premium adjustments made on the sick/elderly the money still has to come from somewhere. At the categorizations of the N and S classes would be left to the value judgement of our government. I can see that being a sticky issue in our halls of power.

    I'll agree that its a better idea that forcing companies to take on higher risk, and not allowing them to charge for it.
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