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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they were constituents, then they were representitive of the people of the district that oppose the medical entitlement program. Just because the district is mostly black, doesn't mean the white folks have to sit back and shut up. Believe it, or not, they have a right to speak out. This is America, for the time being, anyway.
    No one suggested that white people should not have a voice, only that the people who showed up where not representative of the makeup of the district. Don't go building that strawman.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How do your talking points relate to the article?

    Make an effort Celtic.


    It seems like a variety of opinions and agendas were represented at this particular Town Hall and despite the attempt to disrupt the meeting, the Dr. was rattled and was able to get the audience about some of the issues.

    Most people who I encounter getting real vocal about health care reform, have no clue what they're talking about. When you want to ship a package you have a choice. Fedex, UPS, or, the evil government sponsored Post office. The USPS keeps the private carriers honest with regard to pricing.
    Err, you do know that USPS uses Fedex because they are more efficient and can do the same thing that USPS tries do at a lower cost.
    USPS also has a monopoly of services and can use taxpayer funds to cover their losses which are getting bigger and bigger every year.

    They also do things that they postal service won't do like, "These services also deliver packages which are larger and heavier than what the USPS will accept."

    How can the post office keep these guys honest when they are doing better than the post office? If anything the USPS is distorting the true price of service by relying on taxpayer funds to cover it's losses.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one suggested that white people should not have a voice, only that the people who showed up where not representative of the makeup of the district. Don't go building that strawman.
    You must being saying that they can't have their say based on that, then.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You must being saying that they can't have their say based on that, then.
    No, that is not what I am saying at all.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, that is not what I am saying at all.
    Perhaps it you that's throwing Mr. Strawman out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    My point is that its likely the people showing up for the townhall meeting are not actually representative of districts constituents. One would expect a grassroots movement to be made up of people mirror the community they live in. I would suspect these people are simply an organized minority in the neighborhood, although they could have been brought in from outside the district.

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    My point is that its likely the people showing up for the townhall meeting are not actually representative of districts constituents. One would expect a grassroots movement to be made up of people mirror the community they live in. I would suspect these people are simply an organized minority in the neighborhood, although they could have been brought in from outside the district.
    I bet you wouldn't say that if that orgonized majority was made up of minority persons. And if anyone did, they would be labeled racists. Kinda like the Jena march a few years back.
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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Perhaps it you that's throwing Mr. Strawman out there.
    How is it a strawman to say that if a district is, say 75 % black, that a meeting that is predominantly white is not representative of the district? In fact, how is it anything other than an accurate statement. What strawman are you claiming I am building?

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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How is it a strawman to say that if a district is, say 75 % black, that a meeting that is predominantly white is not representative of the district? In fact, how is it anything other than an accurate statement. What strawman are you claiming I am building?
    It sounds like you're making your comments more and more irrelevent with every post. Why even bring it up, it has zero relevence to the topic? Reaching?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Town hall tension: Meeting turns ugly over health care

    I bet you wouldn't say that if that orgonized majority was made up of minority persons. And if anyone did, they would be labeled racists. Kinda like the Jena march a few years back.
    If a group of mostly black people showed up a Malibu city council meeting claiming to be representative of the city, I would say exactly the same thing.

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