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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    After watching the whole video, I retract my earlier comments. Rep Scott was patient with the health care question's, answered despite it not being the topic for the town hall, and informed people when the two health care town halls where scheduled. He was surprisingly patient with some one who was hijacking a meeting with voters on an entirely different topic.
    And then decided, after consultation with his handlers, to stand up and throw a little smackdown at someone who had the temerity to ask a question.

    The doctor was not rude, he offered facts, not insults, and got no answers, and it's the Congressman who gets mad?

    unRepresentative Scott seems to have forgotten what "public servant" means. One of his constituents asked a question, got blown off, which means unRepresentative Scott should be apologetic, not apoplectic.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Wrong venue? Wrong tone?

    So people can only ask questions when it suits the Congressman?

    Elected officials are public servants. They do as we tell them. We do not wait on their pleasure, they wait on ours.

    EVERY venue is appropriate for the public to ask Congress questions on every topic. If unRepresentative Scott has a problem with that, he needs to find himself a new job.
    This meeting was not organized by the congressman but by another group interested in a road project. He was there as a guest speaker. Further there should be a level of decorum in public meetings, had the doctor simply asked "Mr. Congressman, What are your views on health care reform? How are we going to pay for it?" He would have probably gotten a different reaction.
    The doctor started out confrontational and the congressman was defensive.

    They may be public servants but you do not talk to them in the same tone that you scold the guy who mows your grass for running over your flower bed. That's why when I am talking about politician no matter how much I think they are screwed up or wrong I don't make stupid puns from their names or disrespect the office they hold and the same would go if I were talking to them. I have always used the proper honorific and the correct name when discussing any president or congressman and the you would do well doing the same. Your silly names for Democrats just makes you look silly.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by angrycarpenter View Post
    They may be public servants but you do not talk to them in the same tone that you scold the guy who mows your grass for running over your flower bed. That's why when I am talking about politician no matter how much I think they are screwed up or wrong I don't make stupid puns from their names or disrespect the office they hold and the same would go if I were talking to them. I have always used the proper honorific and the correct name when discussing any president or congressman and the you would do well doing the same. Your silly names for Democrats just makes you look silly.
    I talk to them in exactly that same tone, because they are on that level.

    Actually they are below that level--the guy mowing my lawn is actually providing a worthwhile service. The nimrods in Washington only manage to gobble up my tax dollars and demand more.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'd also like to point out, that all you see from these various town hall meetings, is a 2 minute clip of a disruption taking place. What you don't see, is the other 1 or 2 hours of the meeting where those pissed off people haven't disrupted anything, and allowed their Representative to present their point of view and discuss local business.

    Take a look at some of the videos of how the left conducts itself at various speaking events, where they don't agree with the person speaking, and you will see quite a different approach. They very often don't allow the person to even speak at all.
    I'd say that's not correct at all. While there are those on the left who do such things, there are those on the right who do as well. It seems like you attempting to portray the left in general as an affiliation who does not respect those on the right whenever they speak, whereas the right is an affiliation of folks who in general always respect those on the left up until a certain point. I disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Whether organized or not, the people showing up at these town hall meetings are pissed off and have legitimate concerns. It's obvious from the videos we've seen the past week, that they aren't there to shut down opposing views, but to make sure theirs are heard.
    Then they should do just that - express their concerns. The doctor in the video expressed his, and there was no unruly mob of conservatives shouting down the representative. But there have been a few videos posted which show such things taking place, with little or no concern for those who showed up in support of their representative and health care reform.

    I think the representative overreacted, but after watching the whole video, he was fair. He told the doctor and the crowd the date of the upcoming health care meeting, where it was going to be held, and invited everyone to come, not just the supporters but the dissenters in that crowd, too.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    And then decided, after consultation with his handlers, to stand up and throw a little smackdown at someone who had the temerity to ask a question.

    The doctor was not rude, he offered facts, not insults, and got no answers, and it's the Congressman who gets mad?

    unRepresentative Scott seems to have forgotten what "public servant" means. One of his constituents asked a question, got blown off, which means unRepresentative Scott should be apologetic, not apoplectic.
    What he should have done is flat out told the guy asking the question that he was going to talk on the issue on the 24th and 28th, and he could respect the people here to talk about the topic at hand. He was actually politer than he needed to be.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I talk to them in exactly that same tone, because they are on that level.

    Actually they are below that level--the guy mowing my lawn is actually providing a worthwhile service. The nimrods in Washington only manage to gobble up my tax dollars and demand more.
    You like all people think that you deserve a basic level of respect and you would be right.

    Congressmen, judges, policemen, preachers, and anyone in a leadership role deserves a level of respect due their office if not the man. You address them by title and ask questions respectfully. You listen to the answer and then you sit down and let someone else talk. That is how any public meeting is supposed to go, you respect the office and you respect your fellow citizens right to be heard. That is civilized public debate, it is a shame that so many have forgotten that and just want to shove their anger down the throats of their elected officials and fellow citizens.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by angrycarpenter View Post
    You like all people think that you deserve a basic level of respect and you would be right.

    Congressmen, judges, policemen, preachers, and anyone in a leadership role deserves a level of respect due their office if not the man. You address them by title and ask questions respectfully. You listen to the answer and then you sit down and let someone else talk. That is how any public meeting is supposed to go, you respect the office and you respect your fellow citizens right to be heard. That is civilized public debate, it is a shame that so many have forgotten that and just want to shove their anger down the throats of their elected officials and fellow citizens.
    Celticlord does not give respect to any one who disagrees with him, but of course those same people should treat others with kid gloves.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What he should have done is flat out told the guy asking the question that he was going to talk on the issue on the 24th and 28th, and he could respect the people here to talk about the topic at hand. He was actually politer than he needed to be.
    What he should have done is answered the question honestly and forthrightly.

    unRepresentative Scott was arrogant, asinine, and inarticulate. He embarrassed himself and the Anti-Republicans with his mewling complaints about constituents asking questions. He can go cry someone else a river--he screwed the pooch on this one, and there's no amount of apologetics that can ever change that.

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by angrycarpenter View Post
    Congressmen, judges, policemen, preachers, and anyone in a leadership role
    These people are not leaders but followers. That's what "public servant" means. I pay their salary, which makes me the leader.

    (although I'm not sure why you threw preachers in the mix. Most of them are crooks, but they're a more decent sort of crook than Congressmen.)

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    Re: Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Some people are missed. We can even say that many people are pissed, or even that the current majority is as well. But there is a great many who are not, and they, too, are attending these meetings. Are those individuals who support the Democratic health care reform policy simply supposed to sit there and listen to the angry rants of those who oppose it? No, I don't think so. They, too, deserve to hear what their representatives have to say. And if they support Obama's health care reform, then they should be able to say so, or ask the questions that they want to ask without having their representive shouted down by an unruly mob.
    That's exactly what the Libbos expect people to do when they are pissed about something. Face it, your own tactics are being used against you and it's working. You folks are losing the fight. Get over it.

    Personally, I hope they pass the bill. It will spell the demise of the Democratic party.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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