This is not political...this is about our restoring country's integrity. Our country's ability to look beyond politics and DO THE RIGHT THING. These investigations are needed to heal the country...It is not about covering up people's lies and deceit...it is not about politicians using good troops to carry out evil unlawful acts and then cowar behind those very troops who were following the orders of those very politicians who are doing the cowaring.
This process might just hurt alittle but in the end we will all be better off for it.
The C.I.A. has my permission to do whatever is necessary to protect America.
Last edited by Realist1; 08-09-09 at 03:27 PM.
I wish some would someday wake up and smell the coffee of reality, but the most precise intelligence we have gotten to date was gathered through interrogations by FBI professional interogators who did not need to use harsh treatments.
I think it would be of interest for people to know that the most celebrated interrogator in Word War II was a German named [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff"]Hanns Scharff [/ame]who:
On the other hand, we did send Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi to Egypt where the result was the now knowingly false Iraq-al-Qaeda connections. That worked out real well didn't it?..was a German Luftwaffe interrogator during the Second World War. He has been called the "Master Interrogator" of the Luftwaffe and possibly all of Nazi Germany; he has also been praised for his contribution in shaping U.S. interrogation techniques after the war. Merely an Obergefreiter (the equivalent of a senior lance corporal), he was charged with interrogating every German-captured American fighter pilot during the war after his becoming an interrogation officer in 1943. He is highly praised for the success of his techniques, especially considering he never used physical means to obtain the required information. No evidence exists he even raised his voice in the presence of a prisoner of war (POW). Scharff’s interrogation techniques were so effective that he was often called upon to assist other German interrogators in their questioning of bomber pilots and aircrews, including those crews and fighter pilots from countries other than the United States. Additionally, Scharff was charged with questioning V.I.P.s (Very Important Prisoners) that funneled through the interrogation center, namely senior officers and world-famous fighter aces.
After the end of WWII, Scharff was invited by the United States Air Force to give lectures on his interrogation techniques and first-hand experiences. The U.S. military later incorporated Scharff’s methods into its curriculum at its interrogation schools. Scharff's methods are still taught in US Army interrogation schools.
Powell aide says torture helped build Iraq war case
Al-Libi's claim that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's government had trained al Qaeda operatives in producing chemical and biological weapons appeared in the October 2002 speech then-President Bush gave when pushing Congress to authorize military action against Iraq. It also was part of Powell's February 2003 presentation to the United Nations on the case for war
Maybe you are somewhat mistaken.
I may be wrong.
Abu Zubaydah to talk, without resorting to any "enhanced" techniques, but rather by using the same methods law enforcement have used for decades.
Israel, which has a longer history than anyone in dealing with terrorism, and your "24" fantasy, has long since stopped using torture. What they have found is that regular investigative work, just like the FBI and police do everyday, is more effective. It really is simple, and not rocket science for god's sake.
Banned Techniques Yielded ‘High Value Information,’ Memo Says
Leon Panetta believes they can work, and indicated as such in his confirmation hearing.
Panetta Open to Tougher Methods in Some C.I.A. Interrogation
Even Dear Leader acknowledges the techniques work.
Obama Calls It "Torture" on Prime Time | Rights and Liberties | AlterNet
"And that's why I put an end to these practices. I'm absolutely convinced it was the right thing to do - not because there might not have been information that was yielded by these various detainees who were subjected to this treatment, but because we could have gotten this information in other ways - in ways that were consistent with our values, in ways that were consistent with who we are," Obama said, speaking about his decision to outlaw torturous interrogation techniques during his first days in office.