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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The men who got the initial information that got us bin Laden are still in the gun sights of Eric Holder. Disgusting.

    Call your representative and have them do what they can to stop this nonsense, and to have Obama reverse course on enhanced interrogation techniques.

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    Actually, again, we got the real information after we stopped with the EITs. But it wouldn't matter. Breaking the law is breaking the law. Being immoral is being immoral. Being ineffective is being ineffective.

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    If your ead the IG report, you'll notice that the CIA recommended that the DoJ examine the conduct of more than one individual. Idk how exactly these things are related, but since they stopped waterboarding a while back, they may well be related.

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    Exactly. Why punish anybody for simply performing within the scope of their defined roles?
    The thing is that they may not have been "within the scope of their defined roles."
    Under GWB, the DoJ and the CIA worked out some guidelines as to what was legal and permissible and what wasn't. On the CIA's watch, some individuals engaged in activities that weren't in accordance with what the CIA and the DoJ had worked out.

    Also, there was one guy in Afghanistan who turned himself in and then was beaten to death.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    If your ead the IG report, you'll notice that the CIA recommended that the DoJ examine the conduct of more than one individual. Idk how exactly these things are related, but since they stopped waterboarding a while back, they may well be related.

    The thing is that they may not have been "within the scope of their defined roles."
    Under GWB, the DoJ and the CIA worked out some guidelines as to what was legal and permissible and what wasn't. On the CIA's watch, some individuals engaged in activities that weren't in accordance with what the CIA and the DoJ had worked out.

    Also, there was one guy in Afghanistan who turned himself in and then was beaten to death.
    Makes a difference to be sure.

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, again, we got the real information after we stopped with the EITs.
    yup, right after we "broke ksm's spirit"

    he became "preeminent source," he conducted "tutorials..."

    those are pretty unequivocal descriptions

    made by the agency's INSPECTOR GENERAL

    as ISSUED BY ERIC HOLDER's doj

    LOL!

    if it took ten years to assassinate ubl, how long would it have taken without the "preeminent source?"

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yup, right after we "broke ksm's spirit"
    he became "preeminent source," he conducted "tutorials..."
    Like 1 second after? 1 week after? 1 month? a year?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    a preeminent source is a preeminent source

    grow up

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    grow up
    I thought no one but kids said this sort of thing...;)
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yup, right after we "broke ksm's spirit"

    he became "preeminent source," he conducted "tutorials..."

    those are pretty unequivocal descriptions

    made by the agency's INSPECTOR GENERAL

    as ISSUED BY ERIC HOLDER's doj

    LOL!

    if it took ten years to assassinate ubl, how long would it have taken without the "preeminent source?"
    There is not evidence waterboarding or EIT played any role. it was too far down the road to even connect the two, unless you're just to willing to suspend your disbelief.

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    you don't know what you're talking about (what's new)

    he was "transformed" from "an avowed and truculent enemy of the us" into langley's "preeminent source" only after "his spriit was broken" by eit's in the month after his capture

    according to the cia's ig report as issued by eric holder on the monday preceding aug 29

    america is grateful that obama did NOT dismantle the anti terror tactics he inherited from his predecessor (gitmo, detention, wiretapping) which allowed our agents and seals to assassinate ubl

    indeed, gitmo and the patriot act and detention and rendition are ONGOING with this gang

    thanks!

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    Re: Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you don't know what you're talking about (what's new)

    he was "transformed" from "an avowed and truculent enemy of the us" into langley's "preeminent source" only after "his spriit was broken" by eit's in the month after his capture

    according to the cia's ig report as issued by eric holder on the monday preceding aug 29

    america is grateful that obama did NOT dismantle the anti terror tactics he inherited from his predecessor (gitmo, detention, wiretapping) which allowed our agents and seals to assassinate ubl

    indeed, gitmo and the patriot act and detention and rendition are ONGOING with this gang

    thanks!
    Just because you're willing to believe any claim that suits you doesn't mean such is true. The fact is, he did not gvie the information despite being asked while being tortured. he did not give it after being tortured for months. So, he was not as compliant aas claimed. However, through more traditioanl means, we did get the information later on.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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