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French woman, embassy staff confess in Iran trial

Catz Part Deux

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French woman, embassy staff confess in Iran trial - Yahoo! News
Saturday's second hearing at Tehran's Revolutionary Court involved a new group of detainees and focused on testimony from the French academic and the two other foreign-linked defendants, demonstrating the government's resolve to taint Iran's pro-reform movement as a tool of foreign countries — particularly Britain and the United States.

The prosecutor accused the two countries of fomenting the unrest in an attempt to engineer a "soft overthrow" of the government.

The French academic and the two embassy employees took turns standing at a podium in the large, wood-paneled courtroom to make confessions before a judge seated between two large portraits for Iran's supreme leader and the Islamic Republic's founder.

The French Embassy employee, Nazak Afshar, cried as she admitted she was involved in postelection disturbances. She dabbed her eyes with a tissue and said that "brothers at the Intelligence Ministry made me understand my mistake," the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

Such confessions — whether coerced or not — have become the centerpiece of Iran's mass trial of more than 100 prominent opposition figures and activists, which began a week ago.

The defendants are accused of crimes including rioting, spying and plotting to overthrow the regime during the massive street demonstrations denouncing the official results of the June 12 election.

The prosecutor read out an indictment at Saturday's session that accuses Britain and the U.S. of planning to rouse the unrest with the aim of toppling Iran's Islamic rulers through a "soft overthrow," the IRNA news agency reported. The indictment also accused the two powers of providing financial assistance to Iran's reformists to undermine hard-line ruling clerics.
Hossein Rassam, a political analyst at the British Embassy who was arrested shortly after the election, told the court that Britain was involved in fomenting the unrest, according IRNA.

He said a budget of 300,000 pounds — or about $500,000 — had been allocated to establish contacts with Iranian political groups, influential individuals and activists, IRNA reported.
Does anyone doubt that these confessions were coerced?
 
I doubt they were coerced, because I believe the people giving the testimonies are in on the scam.

I mean, "brothers at the Intelligence Ministry made me understand my mistake," ? Gimme-a-break.
 
I doubt they were coerced, because I believe the people giving the testimonies are in on the scam.

I mean, "brothers at the Intelligence Ministry made me understand my mistake," ? Gimme-a-break.

you really have no idea what they do inside those 'hidden' prisons. not everybody is strong, and this is not their fault. I'm yet to blame anything on victims of this puppet show.
 
NO! NO! NO!
. . . two embassy employees took turns standing at a podium in the large, wood-paneled courtroom . . ..
One stands on a podium, one stands at a lectern!

This comment does not further the conversation in an substantive way, but doesn't let me vent on a pet peeve.
 
you really have no idea what they do inside those 'hidden' prisons. not everybody is strong, and this is not their fault. I'm yet to blame anything on victims of this puppet show.

It's my belief that the, "victims", are full participants in the puppet show.
 
No doubts at all. The whole world knows that coercive techniques are used to extract these confessions. What I doubt is that the regime will ever stop deluding themselves long enough to realize that nobody else believes it when their prisoners confess to their ridiculous charges.
 
You mean Iran could also be waterboarding people?

Oh my!
 
No doubts at all. The whole world knows that coercive techniques are used to extract these confessions. What I doubt is that the regime will ever stop deluding themselves long enough to realize that nobody else believes it when their prisoners confess to their ridiculous charges.

The confessions are not for our benefit. They help uphold the legitimacy of the Iranian regime, and the actions it takes in the name of "security", to the Iranian people. If they can point to a legitimate international threat, their measures are much easier to justify.
 
The confessions are not for our benefit. They help uphold the legitimacy of the Iranian regime, and the actions it takes in the name of "security", to the Iranian people. If they can point to a legitimate international threat, their measures are much easier to justify.

Ah, so they are doing the exact same thing you guys do...

Funny how two foes ressemble each other, dontcha think?
 
Power always follows its own rules. And those rules are the same everywhere.
 
Ah, so they are doing the exact same thing you guys do...

Funny how two foes ressemble each other, dontcha think?

Yeah, because the French have been nothing but saints for their entire existence.

:rofl
 
The confessions are not for our benefit. They help uphold the legitimacy of the Iranian regime, and the actions it takes in the name of "security", to the Iranian people. If they can point to a legitimate international threat, their measures are much easier to justify.

True enough, though I believe that the Iranian people are far more intelligent than the regime gives them credit for. One of these days, the powers that be over there are going to look around and realize-too late-that the only ones they're fooling are themselves.
 
Yeah, because the French have been nothing but saints for their entire existence.

:rofl

Certainly not, but at least we dont pretend to be on a divine mission:lol:

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Certainly not, but at least we dont pretend to be on a divine mission:lol:

You haven't lately.

We don't, either, but it doesn't stop the petty and ignorant from claiming we do.
 
You haven't lately.

We don't, either, but it doesn't stop the petty and ignorant from claiming we do.

Is the petty and ignorant one you talk of being the guy pictured above?

And by lately, do you mean since 1789, such as in your entire existence?

:rofl
 
Is the petty and ignorant one you talk of being the guy pictured above?

And by lately, do you mean since 1789, such as in your entire existence?

:rofl

Your Sad attempts at derailing this thread have been dully noted. I would advise that if you would like to partake in these threads to please contribute something useful.

On a lighter note. Yes. I do believe these confessions were coerced, by what means, I can only imagine.
 
Your Sad attempts at derailing this thread have been dully noted. I would advise that if you would like to partake in these threads to please contribute something useful.

On a lighter note. Yes. I do believe these confessions were coerced, by what means, I can only imagine.

Waterboarding???

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
I doubt they were coerced, because I believe the people giving the testimonies are in on the scam.

I mean, "brothers at the Intelligence Ministry made me understand my mistake," ? Gimme-a-break.

They are being raped and tortured to death because that is what these animals do. That is kinda their shtick.

Ah'minajihad brought back the very same torturer who raped, tortured and murdered the Canadian journalist a couple of years ago to 'head up' the crackdown on dissenters.

What? Never heard about that story? That is because of the mesmerizing weakness of Western news media and 'Canada' in general.

At least we--the USA--are standing tall and denouncing this kangaroo court and these animals, these monsters. What? We aren't? Not a word?

Oh, riiiight....obama...

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Waterboarding???

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Please stop diverting this thread. It isn't about the U.S. waterboarding, it is about the Iranian people and others being tortured by their own government so that those who are in power can remain in power.

If you want to talk about the U.S. waterboarding prisoners, I'll be happy to join you there and condemn such acts. This isn't the place.

This thread is about what is happening in my friend's country, to keep people up to date in the outside world so that they don't forget about the nation of Iran.
 
This thread is about what is happening in my friend's country, to keep people up to date in the outside world so that they don't forget about the nation of Iran.

Have you heard from your friend Catz? I'm assuming its Perham.


And OT: What can France do to get them back? Are the staff citizens of Iran or France?
 
Have you heard from your friend Catz? I'm assuming its Perham.


And OT: What can France do to get them back? Are the staff citizens of Iran or France?

He appears to be around, and well. :mrgreen:

I think that one of the people being tried is actually a French citizen, but I may be mistaken. That seems to me to be an act of war, almost.
 
He appears to be around, and well. :mrgreen:

I think that one of the people being tried is actually a French citizen, but I may be mistaken. That seems to me to be an act of war, almost.

Good to hear. :)

If its citizens of another country perhaps but if they are iranian citizens working in a French embassy, the hands are tied.
 
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