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Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

rathi said:
Amazingly enough, many other countries have managed to build government healthcare plans that don't result in the complete breakdown of society. Does Palin have so little faith in America that she doesn't believe we can at least match the Europeans?

The death panels exist today when your private insurer decides not to cover you. In fact, some people don't even make it to the death panel because they have no coverage to start with.
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Which, obviously, would be true if it weren't for the fact that we have alternatives for those without INSURANCE ... no one is denied health care. They only need to go to a public hospital emergency room to be referred.

If you don't know, don't talk ... ignorance is so misleading.
 
Councilman said:
My Way News - Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'



I am glad to see Sarah Palin is speaking out and I have coma acrossed a video that tells the truth about Sarah Palin and why we should stand behind and support her. She has created such fear in the hearts and minds of Liberals it's a wonderful thing.

Pajamas TV
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Absolutely....yes....you should support her....and get all of your friends to also.

Palin should be your nominee in 2012 for sure...its a no-brainer.
 
celticlord said:
Hey, she's a healthy gal, she might make it!

(If she does, I'm sure folks will "rush" to the polls!) :mrgreen:
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Too funny....you put Palin and Rush in the same thread. Such is the state of the Republican party today.
 
WI Crippler said:
Maybe not now, but when John "One heart attack away" McCain was running for president, you guys were scared. You can't deny that.
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Absolutely....the mere thought of Sarah Palin as President should strike fear in the hearts of everyone.

However, the thought of her as an "opponent" is makes me downright giddy.
She would be a worse and easier candidate than Bob Dole.
 
"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care," the former Republican vice presidential candidate wrote.
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This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. She's officially surpassed Huckabee as my least favorite populist dip****.
 
talloulou said:
Folks are freaking out. I saw a story on tv the other night where the state of Oregon denied payment for a woman's chemo drugs but sent her a letter offering to pay for assisted suicide instead. :shock: Let me see if I can find it online.....

Hot Air Blog Archive Video: Oregon says no to chemotherapy, offers assisted suicide instead

Apparently it's an older story but I just saw it on tv the other night so it's obviously being hauled out and retold to get folks all worked up.

There are lots of folks who fear they might get similar letters under an Obama plan.

As for me I'd just like to hear some actual details which are quite lacking. It's surprising how for and against Obama's plan folks are when I know next to nothing about it and apparently neither does anyone else.
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We talked about this elsewhere:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...otherapy-offers-assisted-suicide-instead.html

As I noted there:

The government is not deciding what health care you get. It is simply deciding what it will pay for. You are free to get whatever healthcare you want. This is the exact system we already have.
 
Which, obviously, would be true if it weren't for the fact that we have alternatives for those without INSURANCE ... no one is denied health care. They only need to go to a public hospital emergency room to be referred.
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Not everything can be treated in the emergency room. Long term illnesses are just as deadly and if you can't afford them with coverage or out of pocket, you die. Experimental treatments and aids drugs are probably the most extreme example.

If you don't know, don't talk ... ignorance is so misleading.
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Considering that you seem to lack basic knowledge of how healthcare works, perhaps you should reflect upon your own advice.
 
disneydude said:
Too funny....you put Palin and Rush in the same thread. Such is the state of the Republican party today.
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:rofl
Is that the sound of clue passing you by?

Somebody here doesn't like Canadian bands. :lamo
 
The fear Granola Liberal Leftist feel of Sarah Palin in unsurpassed in modern history and it begs the question. Why? Lets compare qualifications between Sarah Palin and the Amateur in Chief Obama, & # 3 In line Nancy Pelosi.

1. Sarah Palin has successfully ran a City..............Obama just Runs his mouth with lies.

2. Sarah Palin fought for citizens of her state.........Obama fights against the Constitution and the well being of senior citizens.

3. Sarah Palin has presided over an entire State......Obama watched over protests on side walks.

4. Sarah Palin is young, intelligent and attractive.................Pelosi is old and has had so much pastic surgery her face is in a joker like permanent fake smile and is dummer than a box of rocks.

5. Sarah Palin has face 15 ethics charges and won....Pelosi has no concept of the meaning of ethics and lies her a$$ of then refuses to answer questions when caught in those lies.


The radical Liberal Leftists who fight for "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan", haven't taken the time to read any of it or they would be as concerned about it as Americans, are rather than continuing to help Obama push his Anti American agenda of National Socialism.

Sorry I have to admit some of this was unfair. To the box of rocks they are as smart as Pelosi
 
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Councilman said:
The fear Granola Liberal Leftist feel of Sarah Palin in unsurpassed in modern history
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As I said before...obviously you have found humor. No sane liberal is afraid of Palin. She is pretty much a non-entity, only in the limelight because of the foolish conservatives who only see a face (with no substance) and the equally foolish liberals who believe the hype.

The only folks who give time to thinking about Sarah Palin are folks who have nothing else to do with their time.

I do agree on one point. Both she and Obama, based on their records, are completely unqualified to be President.
 
Councilman said:
The fear Granola Liberal Leftist feel of Sarah Palin in unsurpassed in modern history and it begs the question. Why? Lets compare qualifications between Sarah Palin and the Amateur in Chief Obama, & # 3 In line Nancy Pelosi.

1. Sarah Palin has successfully ran a City..............Obama just Runs his mouth with lies.

2. Sarah Palin fought for citizens of her state.........Obama fights against the Constitution and the well being of senior citizens.

3. Sarah Palin has presided over an entire State......Obama watched over protests on side walks.

4. Sarah Palin is young, intelligent and attractive.................Pelosi is old and has had so much pastic surgery her face is in a joker like permanent fake smile and is dummer than a box of rocks.

5. Sarah Palin has face 15 ethics charges and won....Pelosi has no concept of the meaning of ethics and lies her a$$ of then refuses to answer questions when caught in those lies.


The radical Liberal Leftists who fight for "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan", haven't taken the time to read any of it or they would be as concerned about it as Americans, are rather than continuing to help Obama push his Anti American agenda of National Socialism.

Sorry I have to admit some of this was unfair. To the box of rocks they are as smart as Pelosi
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I like the irony, Obama and Pelosi lies, and you state this:
"Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan"
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Maybe you will get the chance to share a bunker with Sarah as you hide out from the granola liberal death squad hunters bringing people to the FEMA euthanasia camps where we will turn our granny into a nutritional snack we shall market as Soylent Green. Now if you will excuse me, I have to get back to work, creating a brand new birth certificate for this child just born in Iran who will in 48 years be our President.

By the way, I do think you may have won an award for the most use of hyperbolic insane rhetorical and inflammatory words. Would be nice if your side could figure out if he is the next Marx or Hitler so I can decide whether to buy red, or buy brown.:rofl
 
Why is this shriveled up bitch even relevant anymore?

Her name keeps coming up in headlines like she is going to be contributing anything major to the nation in... well... the rest of her life. She isn't.

Let's move on shall we...?
 
There are a few things that jump out at you when you read any posts on any subject by the leftists Socialist Obamanites.

1. They love to use polls quite readily that they deem to be in their favor.

2. They claim polls that go against them are unfairly collected or flawed in some manner.

3. Over 99% of their attacks are personal in nature and stay a very long way from real issues.

4. While Conservatives hate the sin and not the sinner. Granola Liberals embrace and support the sinners for their sins.

5. Liberal Leftists claim to support human rights. Then support the right to choose the death of unborn babies, and now embrace Omama's kill granny plan.

6. Conservatives believe in the right to life, and that's a "Human Right" to be proud of.

7. Conservatives believe in the free market system. Liberals believe Karl Marx had the right idea; “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. In other words steal in taxes from those who work and give it to those with hands out who don't.

8. Conservatives remember the history of the creation of Block Wardens under the rule of the National Socialists in Germany 1919to1945 and the results. Liberals Support Obama's version still in it's infancy called "flag".

Sarah Palin has been under constant personal attack from the left because they are scared to death of her political knowledge and experience in actual leadership of more than a street corner in Chicago. And I must admit I did here about the poll saying something about Huckabee until Liberals brought it up. In the last 9 months it's the only time his name really came up that I noticed at all. And that was just a minor blip on the radar.
I don't care if she never runs for office again she's got the Liberal Leftists running around like chickens with the heads cut off defaming her, and I think it's funny to watch, especially in the Obama controlled Media. With idiots like Chris Mathews and the tingle he says he gets in his leg hearing Obama speak.
I have just a question no insult intended but is that a gay thing. Seriously I never heard of that before in my life.
 
Councilman said:
Sarah Palin has been under constant personal attack from the left because they are scared to death of her political knowledge...
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This is what jumped out at me from your post.

I love your sense of humor. ;)
 
rathi said:
Not everything can be treated in the emergency room. Long term illnesses are just as deadly and if you can't afford them with coverage or out of pocket, you die. Experimental treatments and aids drugs are probably the most extreme example.



Considering that you seem to lack basic knowledge of how healthcare works, perhaps you should reflect upon your own advice.
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1) Emergency rooms refer patients to in-hospital physicians for longer term solutions.

2) As a health care worker, I think I have a basic understanding.
 
I usually hate to break down posts into tiny points to quote, but in this case it is needed.

Councilman said:
There are a few things that jump out at you when you read any posts on any subject by the leftists Socialist Obamanites.
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Any post that starts with hyper-partisan name calling is going to be laughable.

Councilman said:
1. They love to use polls quite readily that they deem to be in their favor.

2. They claim polls that go against them are unfairly collected or flawed in some manner.
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This is not liberals, but some people on both ends of the political spectrum,

Councilman said:
3. Over 99% of their attacks are personal in nature and stay a very long way from real issues.
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From some one who is name calling in his first sentence....

Councilman said:
4. While Conservatives hate the sin and not the sinner. Granola Liberals embrace and support the sinners for their sins.
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Conservatives have always struck me as the party of hate, liberals as the party of compassion. Kinda a different spin.

Councilman said:
5. Liberal Leftists claim to support human rights. Then support the right to choose the death of unborn babies, and now embrace Omama's kill granny plan.
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Partisan spin, followed by lies.

Councilman said:
6. Conservatives believe in the right to life, and that's a "Human Right" to be proud of.
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Conservatives believe in removing rights except those to be free to choose whether or not to have an abortion, and to own a gun. No other right is important to them.

Councilman said:
7. Conservatives believe in the free market system. Liberals believe Karl Marx had the right idea; “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. In other words steal in taxes from those who work and give it to those with hands out who don't.
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Inaccurate on both fronts. Most conservatives believe that it is appropriate to have some limits on a free market, as do most liberals. We disagree on what those limits should be.

Councilman said:
8. Conservatives remember the history of the creation of Block Wardens under the rule of the National Socialists in Germany 1919to1945 and the results. Liberals Support Obama's version still in it's infancy called "flag".
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We needed a nazi reference to make this thread complete. Thank you for providing it...or should I thank Rush for providing you the talking point to parrot?

Councilman said:
Sarah Palin has been under constant personal attack from the left because they are scared to death of her political knowledge and experience in actual leadership of more than a street corner in Chicago. And I must admit I did here about the poll saying something about Huckabee until Liberals brought it up. In the last 9 months it's the only time his name really came up that I noticed at all. And that was just a minor blip on the radar.
I don't care if she never runs for office again she's got the Liberal Leftists running around like chickens with the heads cut off defaming her, and I think it's funny to watch, especially in the Obama controlled Media. With idiots like Chris Mathews and the tingle he says he gets in his leg hearing Obama speak.
I have just a question no insult intended but is that a gay thing. Seriously I never heard of that before in my life.
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Actually, Palin has been under attack because we disagree with what she stands for. She certainly does not scare us.
 
Councilman said:
Sarah Palin has been under constant personal attack from the left because they are scared to death of her political knowledge
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The more you post, the funnier and sillier your comments get. Perhaps conservatives like you push Sarah Palin because you believe that you have no one else as competent as she...which gives a disastrous picture of what conservatism looks like to folks like you.
 
Redress said:
I usually hate to break down posts into tiny points to quote, but in this case it is needed.




Any post that starts with hyper-partisan name calling is going to be laughable.



This is not liberals, but some people on both ends of the political spectrum,



From some one who is name calling in his first sentence....



Conservatives have always struck me as the party of hate, liberals as the party of compassion. Kinda a different spin.



Partisan spin, followed by lies.



Conservatives believe in removing rights except those to be free to choose whether or not to have an abortion, and to own a gun. No other right is important to them.



Inaccurate on both fronts. Most conservatives believe that it is appropriate to have some limits on a free market, as do most liberals. We disagree on what those limits should be.



We needed a nazi reference to make this thread complete. Thank you for providing it...or should I thank Rush for providing you the talking point to parrot?



Actually, Palin has been under attack because we disagree with what she stands for. She certainly does not scare us.
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You're talking to a brick wall, Redress. Councilman's partisan hackery is so ingrained it is not possible to see reality.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
The more you post, the funnier and sillier your comments get. Perhaps conservatives like you push Sarah Palin because you believe that you have no one else as competent as she...which gives a disastrous picture of what conservatism looks like to folks like you.
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Actually, I consider her popularity with conservatives to give a disastrous picture of what conservatives are like these days.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You're talking to a brick wall, Redress. Councilman's partisan hackery is so ingrained it is not possible to see reality.
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Yes, but I got to get to 5k posts before I have to let my internet service lapse again...and besides, it's fun to make fun of him.
 
Redress said:
I usually hate to break down posts into tiny points to quote, but in this case it is needed.




Any post that starts with hyper-partisan name calling is going to be laughable.



This is not liberals, but some people on both ends of the political spectrum,



From some one who is name calling in his first sentence....



Conservatives have always struck me as the party of hate, liberals as the party of compassion. Kinda a different spin.



Partisan spin, followed by lies.



Conservatives believe in removing rights except those to be free to choose whether or not to have an abortion, and to own a gun. No other right is important to them.



Inaccurate on both fronts. Most conservatives believe that it is appropriate to have some limits on a free market, as do most liberals. We disagree on what those limits should be.



We needed a nazi reference to make this thread complete. Thank you for providing it...or should I thank Rush for providing you the talking point to parrot?



Actually, Palin has been under attack because we disagree with what she stands for. She certainly does not scare us.
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Redress! Is that the Painteens in your avatar?
I used to love them years ago, in the very early 90s. I saw them play many times at various live music venues (usually opening for other bands), and a few times at parties as well. They used to play here once a month or more, when they lived in Houston and were on the Trance label.
And I actually spoke to Bliss Blood at Emo's many times.

I didn't think anybody listened to them anymore.
 
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