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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

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    Awww, come over to the darkside, you will like it. We would take you, you would be more useful than a certain Senator who is only a democrat to win his election.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    All one needs to know is that the Government wants to involve itself in our healthcare decisions, thinks it can insure 45 million currently uninsured Americans and illegal immigrants without increasing taxes and that currently this Government is close to bankrupt and doesnt have the money to pay for such a plan.

    The notion that more information is required to comprehend how this will be a disaster is funny.

    Of course if you wish to argue and provide evidence how Government managed plans are fiscally responsible, incorruptible and well managed, I am all eyes and ears.
    Government wants to involve itself in our healthcare decisions
    Were does it say that the " ?? You cannot show us can you.

    Do you people who are so against the possibility of some financing of health insurance realize who has been has been involved in our healthcare decisions ? I will tell it was us. We tell you that some docs you want to go to are "out of network".

    We tell you that we will not pay for the statin drug that your doc wanst you on but we will pay for another one that we like.

    We let you see a specialist if he is on our list. We make your doc justify why he wants you on a certain drug. We make your doc jump through hoops when we want to.

    Do you know who "WE" are ??

    We are your friendly insurance company and "WE" know better what is good for you than your doc and if you don't like that you can just go and ............ yourself ha ha ha
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    If all of your competitors have to pay this too then the increase will be passed on to the consumer.
    i.e. bad for the economy. Do we really want to pass it on to the consumer, in this economy? Is that your solution? I can just imagine what folks are going to say when they see, "health tax", on their receipt.

    Not all businesses deal directly with consumers, so what about them? Who are they going to pass the tax on to? What about people who deal in commodities? They get paid what that commodity is worth, at that time.

    This is just another ploy to control the wealth of this nation and give it to the welfare class.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I disagree with the bill because of the money that it's going to cost me.
    Now that would be an honest opinion and fear. If your friends who are throwing stupidities around such as calling the health care financing "socialist" and having "death panels" could actually speak up and dicuss the pros and cons of this bill or bill in an intelligent manner we may be able to get somewhere.

    Nut cases who call the health care reform "unconstitutional" apparently either never read the constitution or do not understand it.
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    My Way News - Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'



    I am glad to see Sarah Palin is speaking out and I have coma acrossed a video that tells the truth about Sarah Palin and why we should stand behind and support her. She has created such fear in the hearts and minds of Liberals it's a wonderful thing.

    Pajamas TV
    Kind of odd that the special needs community (mostly comprised of family members, such as parents) largely disagrees with her position, huh?
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It was extermination. Extermination by forced abortion, gas chambers, famine, it's all the same.
    We will have to agree to disagree ! I feel that it is anti-intellectual and very possibly intellectually dishonest to equate abortion with extermination. First of all extermination is the killing of someone who is alive. It may be a matter of opinion but I do not see an unborn as being alive. How far can we carry out the equating of abortion with extermination ? The hard core Catholics or at least the Church hierarchy believes that birth control is a form of "murder" since it prevents the possibility of a child being born. These same people equate birth control with abortion. That is beyond a stretch.

    I am personnaly against abortion but I feel that each woman/potention father needs to make that decision not a politician.
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Now that would be an honest opinion and fear. If your friends who are throwing stupidities around such as calling the health care financing "socialist" and having "death panels" could actually speak up and dicuss the pros and cons of this bill or bill in an intelligent manner we may be able to get somewhere.

    Nut cases who call the health care reform "unconstitutional" apparently either never read the constitution or do not understand it.
    But, it is socialist. Sections 411 and 412 prove that much. Obviously, the language in the bill doesn't say, "death panels", however in Sec 1233, it clearly states that the government will determine which of our elderly will get life saving care and which won't.

    The government plan won't pay for costly precedures, unless the panel, "orders"--yes, it actually says, "order"--the precedure to be executed.

    There's are three reasons that the supporters of this bill don't take issue with it's stipulations: 1) Stupidity, 2) completely ignorant of what the bill actually says, 3) or, they have, "free healthcare", on their brains.

    Any rational person, that has read even a little bit of the bill, will oppose it with his very life.

    Nothing that the supporters are saying can be supported by the language of the bill.

    The healthcare bill is unconstitutional and yes, I've read the Constitution. Hell, I've read the Constitution and the health bill...LOL!!!! Unlike alotta the supporters of this crap. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that I can be forced to pay the kind of money that this bill will force me to pay, so a buncha deadbeats on welfare can get free healthcare. I challenge you to show it to me, if you disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    We will have to agree to disagree ! I feel that it is anti-intellectual and very possibly intellectually dishonest to equate abortion with extermination. First of all extermination is the killing of someone who is alive. It may be a matter of opinion but I do not see an unborn as being alive. How far can we carry out the equating of abortion with extermination ? The hard core Catholics or at least the Church hierarchy believes that birth control is a form of "murder" since it prevents the possibility of a child being born. These same people equate birth control with abortion. That is beyond a stretch.

    I am personnaly against abortion but I feel that each woman/potention father needs to make that decision not a politician.
    Please note that I said, "forced", abortion. Thanks for your cooperation in the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The fear Granola Liberal Leftist feel of Sarah Palin in unsurpassed in modern history and it begs the question. Why? Lets compare qualifications between Sarah Palin and the Amateur in Chief Obama, & # 3 In line Nancy Pelosi.

    1. Sarah Palin has successfully ran a City..............Obama just Runs his mouth with lies.

    2. Sarah Palin fought for citizens of her state.........Obama fights against the Constitution and the well being of senior citizens.

    3. Sarah Palin has presided over an entire State......Obama watched over protests on side walks.

    4. Sarah Palin is young, intelligent and attractive.................Pelosi is old and has had so much pastic surgery her face is in a joker like permanent fake smile and is dummer than a box of rocks.

    5. Sarah Palin has face 15 ethics charges and won....Pelosi has no concept of the meaning of ethics and lies her a$$ of then refuses to answer questions when caught in those lies.


    The radical Liberal Leftists who fight for "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan", haven't taken the time to read any of it or they would be as concerned about it as Americans, are rather than continuing to help Obama push his Anti American agenda of National Socialism.

    Sorry I have to admit some of this was unfair. To the box of rocks they are as smart as Pelosi
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