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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    $14,000+ annually and that's way too goddamn much in this economy.
    Got source?
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    $14,000+ annually and that's way too goddamn much in this economy.
    How do you calculate that.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Nobody believes me(except other liberals) when I say that republicans are screwing themselves hard this year.
    Trust me, the Democrats aren't looking any better.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    With fingertip access to information at ones fingertips to easily fact check...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVjc9mopH58&feature=related"]YouTube - President Obama Does Not Know What's in the Health Care Bill He is Pushing[/ame]

    Hilarious irony aside, the bill is over a thousand pages long. How in the world can you expect anyone to know what it contains, let alone what it doesn't contain?

    The common American buys into a myth concerning health care and you attack them as fools, but Obama doesn't even know whether or not the bill allows for private insurance and we get nothing but lame excuses...

    People shouldn't expect him to know what's in the whole bill, that's unrealistic!

    No, no it's not. If the bill is too big to fully comprehend then it shouldn't be passed, period. This isn't some random appropriations bill, it's a fundamental change in health care policy. Nobody in the world is capable of understanding the full implications of this bill if passed, so there is no logical reason anyone could argue in favor of it. How do you know the following text isnít in the bill:

    Provision 73.

    Section 143: Subsection 50: Addendum A: All persons using the moniker ďjfuhĒ on any internet forum shall be actively denied access to health care.


    Answer: You donít.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The word "forcing" is not taken in the literal sense; but of course you know this and prefer to dwell in childish semantics; by denying the care, one is forced to alternatives.

    Carry on.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The same way that Stalin forced abortions in the Ukraine.
    More ridiculous fear talking points. The entire health care situation has some legitimate issues to debate. Why y'all choose to discuss irrelevant and untrue points is beyond me. Your fear tactics only fool the unintelligent.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Hilarious irony aside, the bill is over a thousand pages long. How in the world can you expect anyone to know what it contains, let alone what it doesn't contain?

    The common American buys into a myth concerning health care and you attack them as fools, but Obama doesn't even know whether or not the bill allows for private insurance and we get nothing but lame excuses...

    People shouldn't expect him to know what's in the whole bill, that's unrealistic!

    No, no it's not. If the bill is too big to fully comprehend then it shouldn't be passed, period. This isn't some random appropriations bill, it's a fundamental change in health care policy. Nobody in the world is capable of understanding the full implications of this bill if passed, so there is no logical reason anyone could argue in favor of it. How do you know the following text isnít in the bill:

    Provision 73.

    Section 143: Subsection 50: Addendum A: All persons using the moniker ďjfuhĒ on any internet forum shall be actively denied access to health care.


    Answer: You donít.
    Of course he is "not familiar with the provision" he was talking about, because it does not exist. The question was the bill would make "private medical insurance illegal..." which in fact does not exist...do you see that provision?

    Private health insurance not banned on page 16 of the House bill

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
    SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.

    (a) Grandfathered Health Insurance Coverage Defined- Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term `grandfathered health insurance coverage' means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

    (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT-

    (A) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1.

    (B) DEPENDENT COVERAGE PERMITTED- Subparagraph (A) shall not affect the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an individual who is covered as of such first day.

    (2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR CONDITIONS- Subject to paragraph (3) and except as required by law, the issuer does not change any of its terms or conditions, including benefits and cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day before the first day of Y1.

    (3) RESTRICTIONS ON PREMIUM INCREASES- The issuer cannot vary the percentage increase in the premium for a risk group of enrollees in specific grandfathered health insurance coverage without changing the premium for all enrollees in the same risk group at the same rate, as specified by the Commissioner.

    (b) Grace Period for Current Employment-based Health Plans-

    (1) GRACE PERIOD-

    (A) IN GENERAL- The Commissioner shall establish a grace period whereby, for plan years beginning after the end of the 5-year period beginning with Y1, an employment-based health plan in operation as of the day before the first day of Y1 must meet the same requirements as apply to a qualified health benefits plan under section 101, including the essential benefit package requirement under section 121.

    (B) EXCEPTION FOR LIMITED BENEFITS PLANS- Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an employment-based health plan in which the coverage consists only of one or more of the following:

    (i) Any coverage described in section 3001(a)(1)(B)(ii)(IV) of division B of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Public Law 111-5).

    (ii) Excepted benefits (as defined in section 733(c) of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974), including coverage under a specified disease or illness policy described in paragraph (3)(A) of such section.

    (iii) Such other limited benefits as the Commissioner may specify.

    In no case shall an employment-based health plan in which the coverage consists only of one or more of the coverage or benefits described in clauses (i) through (iii) be treated as acceptable coverage under this division

    (2) TRANSITIONAL TREATMENT AS ACCEPTABLE COVERAGE- During the grace period specified in paragraph (1)(A), an employment-based health plan that is described in such paragraph shall be treated as acceptable coverage under this division.

    (c) Limitation on Individual Health Insurance Coverage-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan.

    (2) SEPARATE, EXCEPTED COVERAGE PERMITTED- Excepted benefits (as defined in section 2791(c) of the Public Health Service Act) are not included within the definition of health insurance coverage. Nothing in paragraph (1) shall prevent the offering, other than through the Health Insurance Exchange, of excepted benefits so long as it is offered and priced separately from health insurance coverage.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Me to Palin: Keep your cock-holster shut!

    Every time you open your mouth you make conservatism look bad.

    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Me to Palin:

    Palin PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep opening your mouth. You are THE voice of the GOP. You are their only hope.

    Keep riling up your wacko fringe folk and keep getting them to spout off....

    Oh....and keep up your lies like this one:

    FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill - Yahoo! News
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Me to Palin: Keep your cock-holster shut!

    Every time you open your mouth you make conservatism look bad.

    I find this post offensive, and grossly vulgar even for a Liberal and I can not understand why it is allowed to remain up.

    If it is removed, please remove this post with it.
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