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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    If you think that it can't happen you are drinking the kool-aid.
    It can't. Sorry.

    I can pretty much guarantee that national health care or otherwise, the government will not be forcing women to have abortions against their will.
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    All UHC systems ration health care in some manner or another.
    And you can of course provide evidence of this of course...

    And there is of course no "rationing" in your own system... not a all...
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It can't. Sorry.

    I can pretty much guarantee that national health care or otherwise, the government will not be forcing women to have abortions against their will.
    Not without much greater changes to the country than are even remotely likely the next few years. If democrats tried something like that, it would spell the end of the party.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not without much greater changes to the country than are even remotely likely the next few years. If democrats tried something like that, it would spell the end of the party.
    It's absurd to think that democrats would ever want to "try something like that". It's like saying "If republicans start eating babies in public, it would spell the end of the party".

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I don't think that any source that leans any direction is particularly trustworthy. Accordingly, I don't trust much of anything.



    I've never understood how people can stand to get their news from the TV.
    In a normal day, I'll check NYT, Drudge, WaPo, WSJ, Google News, LAT, and Politico. If I have time, I'll check instapundit and kos. Between that, I see the same story from 2 or 3 perspectives and catch half a dozen stories that are exclusive to one source or another.
    I'm with you RINYC, unfortunately a lot of people do.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And you can of course provide evidence of this of course...

    And there is of course no "rationing" in your own system... not a all...
    The physical impossibility of providing everyone with the "health care" they desire is evidence enough. If one person in every UHC country was denied even the simplest procedure that means they ration health care in some manner. I wasn't making an argument, I was simply stating a fact. Health care is not infinite in supply.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by HematomaJoe View Post
    It's absurd to think that democrats would ever want to "try something like that". It's like saying "If republicans start eating babies in public, it would spell the end of the party".
    That would be my point, yes.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It can't. Sorry.

    I can pretty much guarantee that national health care or otherwise, the government will not be forcing women to have abortions against their will.
    Fascinating, yet no one made this argument. We were talking about denying care.

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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    who here thinks that if someone is diagnosed with Downs syndrome which after birth will become a life long burden on the "Government Health Care System", the decision would be to recommend and force an abortion rather than permitting the person to give birth to someone with a known birth defect
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    the government will not be forcing women to have abortions
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    Fascinating, yet no one made this argument. We were talking about denying care.
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    Re: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    The word "forcing" is not taken in the literal sense; but of course you know this and prefer to dwell in childish semantics; by denying the care, one is forced to alternatives.

    Carry on.

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