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    Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    The Prime Minister claimed the country's values are still based on traditional religious teachings, and said it would be wrong if the devout were forced to keep their beliefs private.

    His comments, made in an interview with a Christian radio station, come amid growing concern that public sector employees are being punished for acting according to their faith.
    "In Britain we are not a secular state as France is, or some other countries. It's true that the role of official institutions changes from time to time, but I would submit that the values that all of us think important if you held a survey around the country of what people thought was important, what it is they really believed in, these would come back to Judeo-Christian values, and the values that underpin all the faiths that diverse groups in our society feel part of."
    His predecessor, Tony Blair, famously did not "do God" while in Downing Street but soon after stepping down converted to Roman Catholicism and set up a faith foundation in the hope of promoting religion as a "powerful force for good".
    Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country - Telegraph

    Its a shame you didn't follow Blair's lead on this Brown.


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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country - Telegraph

    Its a shame you didn't follow Blair's lead on this Brown.
    Lol, in all my years of living in France, I never thought they were as much secular, as more just basically not giving a bleep about getting up on Sunday to go to some church. Their secularism has more to do with just a general interest in participation in religious activities. I never really could grasp the root of this, but Sunday's here are the worst time to drive with all the 20 mile per hour below the speed limit morons on their way to church. There, it was the best time to drive..during church hours because everyone was at home.

    I wonder, is Brown making this statement have anything to do with a certain upcoming election Labor will most likely lose anyways?

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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    France IS very secular in the sense that people absolutely refuse to mix religion and politics and any politician that would use their faith to try and get votes would probably self-destruct in a NY minute. I think that is probably true in all of Western Europe.

    Nevertheless, Brown is definitely not wrong. The UK and for that matter the West as a whole is still very Christian culturally. There's no denying that. As long as people keep religion out of government, I see nothing wrong with this state of things. As an atheist, I have no problem living in a judeo-christian society.
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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    I wonder, is Brown making this statement have anything to do with a certain upcoming election Labor will most likely lose anyways?
    Probably.

    It is an unspoken rule, politicans do not mention faith or religion or their own.
    Blair knew this, he had to hide he was religious. Heck, i thought he was Atheist until he ran into the arms of the CC the second he left.

    Everyone knows UK is Christian, as is most of Europe. I don't need my politican telling me.


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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Britain is still a Christian country, how is he wrong.


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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    So that's the Christian society Alfons was talking about.
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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Lol, in all my years of living in France, I never thought they were as much secular, as more just basically not giving a bleep about getting up on Sunday to go to some church. Their secularism has more to do with just a general interest in participation in religious activities. I never really could grasp the root of this, but Sunday's here are the worst time to drive with all the 20 mile per hour below the speed limit morons on their way to church. There, it was the best time to drive..during church hours because everyone was at home.

    I wonder, is Brown making this statement have anything to do with a certain upcoming election Labor will most likely lose anyways?
    They drive in kilometres per hour.

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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    France IS very secular in the sense that people absolutely refuse to mix religion and politics and any politician that would use their faith to try and get votes would probably self-destruct in a NY minute. I think that is probably true in all of Western Europe.
    It is. Even in the catholic countries like Portugal, Spain and Italy, church participation by people and the church meddling in society had considerably gone down since the 1980s and before that in some countries. Personally I cite the flower power student revolts of the 1960s and 1970s for this.. it freed Europe from the clutches of a religious dominated conservative political sphere.

    Religion is a person thing and has no business in political life and especially in policy. I could care less if you worshipped god, a dog, some green men or mother earth. I do care if you bring your religion into politics and try to force it down on others and especially me and my family.
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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Britain is still a Christian country, how is he wrong.
    I disagree, the Muslims have over run the place.
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    Re: Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I disagree, the Muslims have over run the place.
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