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Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

I can see the logic. I don't want the folks at GM telling me how to run my car company. Of course, that doesn't mean Obama is any more competent.
 
I can see the logic. I don't want the folks at GM telling me how to run my car company.
Ok....and who "created" the mess?

Anti-Republican Congressmen?
Republican Congressmen?
Insurance companies?
Doctors?
Hospitals?
AARP?
Pharmaceutical companies?

Who exactly is responsible for the "mess"? What exactly is the "mess"?
 
The fact of the matter is this: Barack Obama does not want dissent. Community organizing is cool only when it furthers liberal causes.

I find his desire for certain people to simple "be quiet" quite disturbing. I have a feeling we are going to see more of his totalitarian tendencies ooze out as the debate over health care reform continues.
 
Shut up and sit down, that's the WH message.
Well, of course.
Spirited debate ultimately leads to the downfall of liberal policies.
Thus, to mitigate that as much as possible, The Omaba and His ilk try to quash such debate, whenever possible.

After all, the ends justify the means.
 
And what am i supposed to write exactly?
Write that MrVicchio is an outrageous hyperpartisan hack who's just a big meanie and won't share his healthcare with anyone.:mrgreen:

(well, MrV, she did ask!)
 
Gotta love Pelosi saying that the protests are "astroturf" and then lies about them having Nazi garb. What idiot PR director gets a bunch of people trying to look like real Americans concerned about Obama's polices and trying to garner support, and tells them to dress like Nazis? A lot of DNC politicians thought that being elected based on not being like George Bush gave them a mandate for their policies, and I think that they're receiving a rude awakening to the fact that Americans don't want what they want.
 
"But I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking."

Good for him.

Elections have consequences.

Republicans are acting as if a coup took place.

Your side had eight years of screwing up everything, why not give the guy more than six months to fix it?
 
Good for him.
Elections have consequences.
Republicans are acting as if a coup took place.
I'll archive this for the next time the GOP takes control.

Your side had eight years of screwing up everything, why not give the guy more than six months to fix it?
Your assumption is that His "fix" is better than if everything were simply left alone. That's an assumption based on nothing more than partisanship and ideology.
 
I'll archive this for the next time the GOP takes control.


Your assumption is that His "fix" is better than if everything were simply left alone. That's an assumption based on nothing more than partisanship and ideology.


Everything left alone is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Just like a Republican and Bush Apologist to argue that inaction is the best course of conduct.:doh
 
Everything left alone is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Just like a Republican and Bush Apologist to argue that inaction is the best course of conduct.:doh

That does seem to be the strategy they prefer. Do nothing, put head in sand. Then act surprised when the cookie jar either fills up or falls off the table. I think they would just prefer a nice white Texan to be on vacation for most of these 6 months ignoring NSA warnings, that worked out so well did it not?
 
That does seem to be the strategy they prefer. Do nothing, put head in sand. Then act surprised when the cookie jar either fills up or falls off the table. I think they would just prefer a nice white Texan to be on vacation for most of these 6 months ignoring NSA warnings, that worked out so well did it not?

That's right, do nothing. We don't want to the government to takeover the healthcare system.
 
Everything left alone is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Not true.
Not even -close- to being true.
But then, when a liberal has an attack to make, the truth is meaningless.

The mess began when lending practices were relaxed so that people who would otherwise be unable to get credit to buy real estate were able to do so, thusly creating a 'sub-prime' credit market. This relaxation was forced upon lenders by liberals, based on the idea that most unworthy applicants were minorities, and that denying thse people was based on race.

And so, "the mess" came from an unsound change in lending prractices, one opposed by those with the most at risk -- the lenders. Had things been left alone, we'd not be in this mess.

The solution? Let everyithing run its course, and then revert to the sound lending practices that would -prevent- a 'sub prime' credit collapse. The idea that only government can fix what's currently wrong is absurd, unsound, unsupportable, and championed only by people that stand to gain personal and/or partisan political power from doing so.

Just like a Republican and Bush Apologist to argue that inaction is the best course of conduct
Just like a liberal, to make stuff up just so he could bash the other side.
 
Theres that "spirit of bipartisanship" he campaigned on.... :lol:

Screw bipartisanship. When Republicans ran things where was bipartisanship? It involved Democrats caving in, that's all. Well now that a few of them have turned the tables, putting the hard lessons learned on keeping a minority powerless they are just way out of line.

What happens when a republican crosses the aisle these days? He is called a traitor and the party promises retaliation in the next election. Republicans killed bipartisanship and have only themselves to blame if they feel left out. If they want a seat at the table they need to tone down the rhetoric and act like reasonable people. As long as they talk like it's the end of the world if any democratic agenda passes they will and should be left out in the cold. Democrats have the majority and they can keep it if they all stop playing nice with the ones who are working only to insure their failure.
 
The expression is, "put up, or shut up".

Whatever dude, its 9 in the evening and i haven't had a cup of tea yet.

I should be excused.
 
Screw bipartisanship. When Republicans ran things where was bipartisanship? It involved Democrats caving in, that's all. Well now that a few of them have turned the tables, putting the hard lessons learned on keeping a minority powerless they are just way out of line.
Tell me:
Of all the major legislation passed under GWB, which did not have bi-partisan support?

And remember: The Obama's Health Care Boondoggle isn't being stopped by the GOP.
 
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Screw bipartisanship. When Republicans ran things where was bipartisanship?
No child left behind was an Edward Kennedy bill that former President Bush graciously passed, when it failed G.W. was bashed over the head with the results, that was bi-partisan, medicare part D was passed with bi-partisan support, as well as HIPPAA and COBRA insurance laws, Democrats as well as Republicans voted for action in the middle east, etc. You sure you want to take this position?
 
Whatever dude, its 9 in the evening and i haven't had a cup of tea yet.

I should be excused.
You guys still do that? I thought it was more of an expression these days. :2wave:
 
Whatever dude, its 9 in the evening and i haven't had a cup of tea yet.

I should be excused.

Uh, nope.

But, we are puttin' up and puttin' out. The American people, who own the government, are speaking out. They're saying what they want. They want the Libbos to stay out of our lives and our pockets books.
 
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