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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And what am i supposed to write exactly?
    Write that MrVicchio is an outrageous hyperpartisan hack who's just a big meanie and won't share his healthcare with anyone.

    (well, MrV, she did ask!)

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Gotta love Pelosi saying that the protests are "astroturf" and then lies about them having Nazi garb. What idiot PR director gets a bunch of people trying to look like real Americans concerned about Obama's polices and trying to garner support, and tells them to dress like Nazis? A lot of DNC politicians thought that being elected based on not being like George Bush gave them a mandate for their policies, and I think that they're receiving a rude awakening to the fact that Americans don't want what they want.

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    "But I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking."
    Good for him.

    Elections have consequences.

    Republicans are acting as if a coup took place.

    Your side had eight years of screwing up everything, why not give the guy more than six months to fix it?

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Good for him.
    Elections have consequences.
    Republicans are acting as if a coup took place.
    I'll archive this for the next time the GOP takes control.

    Your side had eight years of screwing up everything, why not give the guy more than six months to fix it?
    Your assumption is that His "fix" is better than if everything were simply left alone. That's an assumption based on nothing more than partisanship and ideology.

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'll archive this for the next time the GOP takes control.


    Your assumption is that His "fix" is better than if everything were simply left alone. That's an assumption based on nothing more than partisanship and ideology.

    Everything left alone is what got us into this mess in the first place.
    Just like a Republican and Bush Apologist to argue that inaction is the best course of conduct.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Everything left alone is what got us into this mess in the first place.
    Just like a Republican and Bush Apologist to argue that inaction is the best course of conduct.
    That does seem to be the strategy they prefer. Do nothing, put head in sand. Then act surprised when the cookie jar either fills up or falls off the table. I think they would just prefer a nice white Texan to be on vacation for most of these 6 months ignoring NSA warnings, that worked out so well did it not?

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Well, you heard the man.

    Shut up and put up.
    The expression is, "put up, or shut up".
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    That does seem to be the strategy they prefer. Do nothing, put head in sand. Then act surprised when the cookie jar either fills up or falls off the table. I think they would just prefer a nice white Texan to be on vacation for most of these 6 months ignoring NSA warnings, that worked out so well did it not?
    That's right, do nothing. We don't want to the government to takeover the healthcare system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Everything left alone is what got us into this mess in the first place.
    Not true.
    Not even -close- to being true.
    But then, when a liberal has an attack to make, the truth is meaningless.

    The mess began when lending practices were relaxed so that people who would otherwise be unable to get credit to buy real estate were able to do so, thusly creating a 'sub-prime' credit market. This relaxation was forced upon lenders by liberals, based on the idea that most unworthy applicants were minorities, and that denying thse people was based on race.

    And so, "the mess" came from an unsound change in lending prractices, one opposed by those with the most at risk -- the lenders. Had things been left alone, we'd not be in this mess.

    The solution? Let everyithing run its course, and then revert to the sound lending practices that would -prevent- a 'sub prime' credit collapse. The idea that only government can fix what's currently wrong is absurd, unsound, unsupportable, and championed only by people that stand to gain personal and/or partisan political power from doing so.

    Just like a Republican and Bush Apologist to argue that inaction is the best course of conduct
    Just like a liberal, to make stuff up just so he could bash the other side.

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    Re: Obama: ‘don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking’

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Theres that "spirit of bipartisanship" he campaigned on....
    Screw bipartisanship. When Republicans ran things where was bipartisanship? It involved Democrats caving in, that's all. Well now that a few of them have turned the tables, putting the hard lessons learned on keeping a minority powerless they are just way out of line.

    What happens when a republican crosses the aisle these days? He is called a traitor and the party promises retaliation in the next election. Republicans killed bipartisanship and have only themselves to blame if they feel left out. If they want a seat at the table they need to tone down the rhetoric and act like reasonable people. As long as they talk like it's the end of the world if any democratic agenda passes they will and should be left out in the cold. Democrats have the majority and they can keep it if they all stop playing nice with the ones who are working only to insure their failure.

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