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    Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    FALLUJA, Iraq (CNN) -- Like many young boys, Khidir loves playing with toy cars and wants to be a policeman like his father when he grows up. But it was his father's very job that caused the tiny child to suffer the unimaginable.

    Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman - CNN.com

    This is one of the sickest stories I've read in quite a while.

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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    They beat me with a shovel, they pulled my teeth out with pliers, they would go like this and pull it
    "This is where they hammered a nail into my leg and then they pulled it out," he says, lifting up his pant leg to show a tiny wound.

    He says his captors also pulled out each of his tiny fingernails, broke both his arms, and beat him repeatedly on the side of the head with a shovel
    If we needed reminding they are not even human but animals and need to be wiped out this was it :/
    It would make me no better than them if i wished them the same fate they inflicted on a child but a bullet in the head would suffice.
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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If we needed reminding they are not even human but animals and need to be wiped out this was it :/
    It would make me no better than them if i wished them the same fate they inflicted on a child but a bullet in the head would suffice.
    Exactly! They need to be put down, but we are better than they.

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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    Kid sounds pretty hardcore, though. "Look, this is where they drove nails into me and pulled them out!" Bet he's going to make an awesome cop some day.

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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If we needed reminding they are not even human but animals and need to be wiped out this was it :/
    It would make me no better than them if i wished them the same fate they inflicted on a child but a bullet in the head would suffice.
    " "The kidnappers called me on the phone and demanded that some prisoners that we had be released or they would slit his throat," Khidir's father says. "But I said no to the release. I would not put killers back out on the street that would hurt other Muslims. So I thought to myself, 'Let my son be a martyr.' "

    He even held a secret funeral for his little boy. He didn't want to tell the rest of the family that he had refused the kidnappers' ultimatum, allowing them to hope that he was still alive."



    Um... the kidnappers are not the only monsters in this story, in my opinion.

    The people of this culture are alien to me, they are beyond my ability to understand.
    The article tries to make it seem like this boy is like any other kid, but in truth he'll probably grow up to be just like his father and everybody else in that culture, and say things like "Let my son be a martyr", and I find I have a very difficult time working up much feeling about this one way or the other.
    These people are from a world we don't understand.
    As with females and hijaab, I just don't feel concerned or interested enough to venture an opinion, because I know it would be the wrong one.
    I don't understand these people well enough to tell them what they need to do, or even to have an opinion on it. Or even to care, really.

    I care more about the kidnappings in Mexico, which are rampant. When children in Mexico are kidnapped, their parents actually care. They react as we would. Our cultures are similiar enough that it's at least possible to understand them.

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    Better if the policeman had capitulated to terrorist demands?

    No, I think there was much honor in his decision, and this was one of the rare, lucky occasions when the price for honor was lower than it could have been.

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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Better if the policeman had capitulated to terrorist demands?

    No, I think there was much honor in his decision, and this was one of the rare, lucky occasions when the price for honor was lower than it could have been.
    Yeah, I'm sure there's tons of honor in their culture, far more than in ours... I just find that I don't really give a crap about them or what happens to them, because their collective mindset is so different then our that I can't understand them. Like, at all. They are alien to me.
    It's really hard to empathize with a people on a personal level (although I can on a more general level) when they are so different from you that it is impossible for you to understand them.

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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    The kidnappers called me on the phone and demanded that some prisoners that we had be released or they would slit his throat," Khidir's father says. "But I said no to the release. I would not put killers back out on the street that would hurt other Muslims. So I thought to myself, 'Let my son be a martyr.
    That is not being a Monster.
    I think that shows courage and honour rarely seen and i salute the father for not giving in and releasing more killers


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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    That is not being a Monster.
    I think that shows courage and honour rarely seen and i salute the father for not giving in and releasing more killers
    Well, I disagree.
    But, as I mentioned, it really doesn't matter.
    I don't really care one way or the other what they do.
    I just think we should get the hell out of their country and leave them alone.

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    Re: Terrorists kidnap, torture boy to bully Iraqi policeman

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I just think we should get the hell out of their country and leave them alone.
    You and me both.

    Iraq was a country we should never have stepped foot on.


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