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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A war screwed up by the Republicans or one screwed up by the Democrats, what's the real difference? Obama's administration is one of double speak and lies, why anyone would trust this Bush clone, I wouldn't know. Aren't people saying now that speaking out against his healthcare is unamerican? I remember that ploy.

    I hope this dude is really dead, more dead terrorists ain't necessarily bad. But we should be careful with what it is that we're doing in the area and how it's impacting the overall "WoT".
    More parroting, you charge the President with "double speak and lies" and call him a "Bush clone" with no substantiation at all, only the hollow words. And as was mentioned many times, "speaking out" against health care reform is not Un-American, it is the denial of dialogue through yelling and chanting that is in dispute. Make no mistake, you are not defending patriots, but rule by mob. That's the "ploy", and that's what you are defending. If that's what you want for America, we'd be better off under the Taliban.

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Ah yes, because we all know that wars are never screwed up and always well managed right?
    Naw, since we stopped declaring war, we've been pretty good at ****ing it up.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What administration doesn't use double speak?
    I'm not saying it's unique to him, but that he uses it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not saying it's unique to him, but that he uses it.
    I think we all do at some point.

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    More parroting, you charge the President with "double speak and lies" and call him a "Bush clone" with no substantiation at all, only the hollow words. And as was mentioned many times, "speaking out" against health care reform is not Un-American, it is the denial of dialogue through yelling and chanting that is in dispute. Make no mistake, you are not defending patriots, but rule by mob. That's the "ploy", and that's what you are defending. If that's what you want for America, we'd be better off under the Taliban.
    Mmmmhmmmm. And people speaking out against the government or the war before didn't support the troops and encouraged terrorists. I've heard it all before. I heard Obama talk about transparency and having bills online days before a vote; things of that manner too. Seen all that broken. I've seen poor interaction with Congress, a desire to get some things through to establish a legacy despite the obvious flaws. You can be on your partisan horse and decry anyone who dare to criticize your candidate, but that doesn't serve the Republic.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think we all do at some point.
    To varying degrees maybe. But I think a lot of people get by without the use of double speak. They'll state their mind, clearly and rationally and explain the position. And then they won't go behind the backs of others and finagle the situation to get the opposite out. Double speak in government is rather dangerous.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Mmmmhmmmm. And people speaking out against the government or the war before didn't support the troops and encouraged terrorists. I've heard it all before. I heard Obama talk about transparency and having bills online days before a vote; things of that manner too. Seen all that broken. I've seen poor interaction with Congress, a desire to get some things through to establish a legacy despite the obvious flaws. You can be on your partisan horse and decry anyone who dare to criticize your candidate, but that doesn't serve the Republic.
    You are "serving the Republic" by fussing about how many days a bill is online before a vote, after supporting a president who took the military to war without reason, hired Christian "Crusaders" to commit genocide in Iraq, dumped billions of dollars in taxpayer cash in the Iraqi desert, mysteriously abandoned the search for the man who committed the 9/11 strikes, tortured detainees, and collected every email and phone call you made without legal justification? This is your idea of "serving the republic"? Excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You are "serving the Republic" by fussing about how many days a bill is online before a vote, after supporting a president who took the military to war without reason, hired Christian "Crusaders" to commit genocide in Iraq, dumped billions of dollars in taxpayer cash in the Iraqi desert, mysteriously abandoned the search for the man who committed the 9/11 strikes, tortured detainees, and collected every email and phone call you made without legal justification? This is your idea of "serving the republic"? Excuse me if I don't take you seriously.
    That's you're assumptions. I didn't support Bush. In fact, my rhetoric makes that clear. You merely had to invent a reason as to why you could deflect away the whole of my post without having to deal with the fact that Obama has lied, has broken promises, and has overall done a poor job as President. Weak deflects and intellectually dishonest debate....excuse me if I don't take you seriously.
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    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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